From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: skip.tavakkolian@gmail.com (Skip Tavakkolian) Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 18:40:42 -0800 Subject: [9fans] 9vx instability In-Reply-To: References: <82af4df383dbdfc93944531f9ce11494@gmx.de> <0f3ffa2580853f43a31188a801994e3c@brasstown.quanstro.net> Message-ID: Topicbox-Message-UUID: 47c3d80a-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 3:40 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> 9front seems to me to define itself as: having fun while getting >> useful stuff done. With an emphasis in *fun* and in not taking >> anything too seriously, while one the technical side favoring >> simplicity and things that work. >> >> This might not be exactly the same original Plan 9 values, but seems >> close enough. Of course in 9front there is also an element of trolling >> and poking fun at itself and anything else, and I will be happy if >> cat-v.org takes the blame for that. >> >> > ?to be honest, it's one of the reasons i've stopped following 9front. >> > >> > to paraphrase a saying in mathematics, it's not enough to be good >> > you must also be humble. ?why do you think dennis' ideas took >> > over? >> >> I think an important form of humility is not taking yourself too >> seriously. For an example of this see Dennis' Anti-Foreword to The >> UNIX-HATERS Handbook: http://simson.net/ref/ugh.pdf >> >> 9front can't claim to reach such exquisite levels of "seriousness", >> but it tries. >> >> I suspect one of the reasons why 9front exists is because some people >> in the Plan 9 community this days seem to take themselves and the >> whole project a bit too seriously. >> >> Which is kind of weird for a project called after an Ed Wood film. > > uriel, what you say would make sense if the "jokes" didn't include putting > mein kampf in /lib. > > - erik > hopefully the 9front kids understand that /lib is not a real library; it is not required to have a copy of every a piece of drivel ever written. -Skip