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Thu, 26 Jan 2023 11:34:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8760942b-b1c9-aed1-c194-9ba15ffe2c4a@riseup.net> <436AD830-991E-42F8-9CFC-A18CE66E1A52@iitbombay.org> <4258fc3c-cc05-22f1-437a-ed44e70feb46@lassi.io> In-Reply-To: From: Skip Tavakkolian Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2023 11:34:01 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [9fans] plan 9 and lisp To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: 6dc60598-9db0-11ed-8c0f-ee100174bae2 Archived-At: =?UTF-8?B?PGh0dHBzOi8vOWZhbnMudG9waWNib3guY29tL2dyb3Vwcy85?= =?UTF-8?B?ZmFucy9UN2IwYWZiZWZiNTMxODliNi1NMDA4ZjFiMzQyM2ZmODhiZmIzMTM4?= =?UTF-8?B?ZmYxPg==?= List-Help: List-Id: "9fans" <9fans.9fans.net> List-Post: List-Software: Topicbox v0 List-Subscribe: Precedence: list Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: , Topicbox-Delivery-ID: 2:9fans:437d30aa-c441-11e9-8a57-d036212d11b0:522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa:M008f1b3423ff88bfb3138ff1:1:8own9FmbAttLJWZASWVh5c2FC3TaAgIQb7KoIVOWbyo It's hard to give a useful answer without knowing how much theory and practice someone has. As you already know, reading good code and emulating the structure and style of good programs is a good practice. I find that implementing simple versions of tools/protocols/languages/etc. is very good practice for learning a subject or a language. I find that the language I use will constrain my thinking, and try to use one that fits the problem; but sometimes that decision is made for me because there is a lot of momentum -- investment in tools, code and knowhow (e.g. C for OS, Python for ML, etc.). As for coding on Plan 9, generally for me, understanding how to architect the namespace to minimize the code required to accomplish a task is the key. There are several good rc examples that do things that on other OS require a lot of specialized code & libraries. On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 6:14 AM Ahmed Khaled wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 23 2023 at 01:45:08 PM +0200, Lassi Kortela > wrote: > > Chibi-Scheme are featherweight > >With luck, it's possible to port them to Plan 9 with modest effort. >=20 > I'm a beginner programmer who didn't get his hand dirty with coding. > but I'm willing. >=20 > Do you recommend it as first step. I know C programming, I did read > some of acme code for fun, and rob pike Ivy too. I def know what scheme > and lisp is. 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