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From: Skip Tavakkolian <skip.tavakkolian@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] shell functions
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 09:44:49 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJSxfmJziKuERcDs6H+6bs5CVjfNv_Ddq1vbo75eqiViQyXSCQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140926163212.Horde.kuocVrN6KLWBJ9UPAJ0X3Q1@ssl.eumx.net>

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you misrepresent. rsc addressed the non-web-centric issue:

> I don't think it is super important to try to make rc defend against
malicious environments, any more than
> it is to make it somehow defend against malicious $paths. If those are
security-relevant, you've already lost.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Kurt H Maier <khm@sciops.net> wrote:

> Quoting Russ Cox <rsc@swtch.com>:
>
>  The right fix is to eliminate all possible interaction between (1) and
>> (2).
>> The first public fix focused instead on making (1) more robust, and guess
>> what, it wasn't good enough and now there is a *second* CVE about this
>> problem, and a *second* attempt at making (1) more robust. It is almost
>> certainly too late to change CGI, but bash could be changed to just ignore
>> CGI's variables (HTTP_*), and I hope that's what will eventually happen.
>> I'm not holding my breath: I bet we'll see a cascade of patches trying to
>> make this interaction "safe" instead of removing it.
>>
>>
> This is a heartbreakingly web-centric view of these issues.  The real
> problem is that bash was evaling stuff that had () { in it, and it is
> very, very much not relegated to CGI use.  There are exploits in the
> wild for both DHCP and ssh.
>
> Obviously bash is an awful shell, but munging it for apache is not the
> right answer to anything.
>
> khm
>
>
>
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-26 16:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CAL0h+tWUCrwWoTSeLz+Kx1yqKwKqwDBZZbH7fLe-PWXjLSgWWw@mail.gmail.com>
2014-09-26 15:54 ` Russ Cox
2014-09-26 16:32   ` [9fans] " Kurt H Maier
2014-09-26 16:44     ` Skip Tavakkolian [this message]
2014-09-26 16:55       ` Kurt H Maier
2014-09-29 15:30     ` Russ Cox
2014-09-26 16:48   ` Bakul Shah
2014-09-27 14:40   ` Christian Neukirchen
2014-09-28  7:00     ` arisawa
2014-09-28  9:39       ` Richard Miller
2014-09-29 13:03         ` arisawa
2014-09-29 13:20           ` Charles Forsyth
2014-10-01  9:37             ` arisawa
2014-09-29 18:05           ` erik quanstrom

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