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From: Skip Tavakkolian <skip.tavakkolian@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] syscall 53
Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 18:21:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJSxfmL6FJVvq9ogGuFPSz=CdsqyNkZwPc9eqcbs3qKzXzGu4g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP6exYK9K16zSzdk_pj0CdKKLFo3ugiXaVzKGfX5OJ+yw69RSA@mail.gmail.com>

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my Plan 9 environment is the only one that i feel i know and have control
over; i don't feel the same about my (Canonical's) ubuntu desktop, my
(Google's) chromebook, my (Apple's) macbook, my (T-Mobile/Google's) android
phone, etc, etc, precisely because of auto-update.  i appreciate that they
want to be my sysadm, but it means that i'm no longer an informed consumer.


On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 9:41 AM, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have a different perspective. There are millions of chromebooks out
> there updating all the time, from the firmware to the kernel to the
> root file system to everything. It all works.
>
> If you are telling me that the upgrade technology of Plan 9 can not
> handle an automatic upgrade, fine; we have the proof.
>
> If you are telling me Plan 9 should not or never will be able to
> handle an automatic upgrade, and is going to require a heads up email
> for each kernel change, I have a hard time taking that seriously.
>
> This is not a human communication problem. It's a technology problem,
> trivially solved for many years now by many systems.
>
> ron
>
>

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-05-21  1:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-17 19:11 goo
2014-05-17 21:17 ` Jeff Sickel
2014-05-17 22:21   ` Jeff Sickel
2014-05-17 22:45   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2014-05-18  4:34     ` lucio
2014-05-18  8:29       ` David du Colombier
2014-05-18 15:28         ` Jeff Sickel
2014-05-18 15:32         ` Skip Tavakkolian
2014-05-18 15:34           ` Skip Tavakkolian
2014-05-18 15:38           ` Jeff Sickel
2014-05-18 16:03             ` Skip Tavakkolian
2014-05-18 22:55               ` Skip Tavakkolian
2014-05-19  1:54                 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-19  2:27                   ` Jeff Sickel
2014-05-19  4:18                     ` lucio
2014-05-19 12:50                       ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-19 14:01                         ` lucio
2014-05-19 16:24                           ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-19 16:54                             ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-19 17:16                               ` lucio
2014-05-19 17:22                                 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-19 17:13                             ` lucio
2014-05-19 17:25                               ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-19 19:50                                 ` Bakul Shah
2014-05-19 19:59                                   ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-19 20:54                                     ` ron minnich
2014-05-19 21:30                                       ` Charles Forsyth
2014-05-19 21:41                                         ` ron minnich
2014-05-19 23:02                                           ` Kurt H Maier
2014-05-19 23:06                                             ` andrey mirtchovski
2014-05-19 23:12                                               ` Kurt H Maier
2014-05-19 23:17                                                 ` andrey mirtchovski
2014-05-20  0:09                                                   ` Jeff Sickel
2014-05-19 21:34                                       ` Anthony Sorace
2014-05-20 14:04                                         ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-20 16:41                                           ` ron minnich
2014-05-20 17:14                                             ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-20 18:32                                             ` Kurt H Maier
2014-05-20 19:49                                               ` ron minnich
2014-05-20 19:54                                                 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-20 20:06                                                 ` Kurt H Maier
2014-05-21 10:23                                                 ` hiro
2014-05-20 20:33                                             ` Jeff Sickel
2014-05-21  1:37                                               ` Skip Tavakkolian
2014-05-21 15:40                                                 ` lucio
2014-05-21 16:25                                                   ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-21 16:56                                                     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2014-05-21 20:05                                                       ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2014-05-22  0:13                                                       ` Bakul Shah
2014-05-22  3:25                                                         ` [9fans] CMS/MMS (VCS/SCM/DSCM) [was: syscall 53] Jeff Sickel
2014-05-22  5:03                                                           ` lucio
2014-05-22  5:07                                                           ` lucio
2014-05-22 13:29                                                             ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-22 13:50                                                               ` lucio
2014-05-22  5:11                                                           ` Bakul Shah
2014-05-22  5:26                                                             ` lucio
2014-05-22 12:57                                                               ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-22 13:43                                                                 ` lucio
2014-05-22 13:57                                                                   ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-22  5:28                                                             ` lucio
2014-05-22  5:36                                                             ` lucio
2014-05-22  6:00                                                               ` Bakul Shah
2014-05-22  6:18                                                                 ` lucio
2014-05-22 12:45                                                                 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-22 20:05                                                                   ` Bakul Shah
2014-05-22 20:11                                                                     ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-23 20:07                                                                     ` Steve Simon
2014-05-22  9:52                                                               ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2014-05-22 10:29                                                                 ` lucio
2014-05-22 10:46                                                                   ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2014-05-22 13:03                                                             ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-22  5:23                                                           ` Skip Tavakkolian
2014-05-22  5:47                                                             ` lucio
2014-05-22 12:49                                                               ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-22  7:49                                                           ` Alex Jordan
2014-05-22 12:49                                                             ` Riddler
2014-05-22  3:43                                                       ` [9fans] syscall 53 Kurt H Maier
2014-05-22  5:12                                                         ` lucio
2014-05-22 16:15                                                           ` Kurt H Maier
2014-05-22  5:36                                                         ` Bakul Shah
2014-05-22 10:50                                                           ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2014-05-21 17:01                                                     ` lucio
2014-05-21 17:41                                                       ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-21 19:08                                                         ` lucio
2014-05-21 20:36                                                           ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-22  4:46                                                             ` lucio
2014-05-22 13:18                                                               ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-22 13:39                                                                 ` lucio
2014-05-22 14:22                                                                   ` Riddler
2014-05-22  4:54                                                             ` lucio
2014-05-22 13:07                                                               ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-21  1:21                                             ` Skip Tavakkolian [this message]
2014-05-21 15:36                                               ` lucio
2014-05-21 15:57                                                 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-21 17:03                                                   ` lucio
2014-05-21 16:50                                                 ` Kurt H Maier
2014-05-21 18:02                                                   ` hiro
2014-05-20 17:05                                         ` Bakul Shah
2014-05-20 17:28                                           ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-19 17:26                               ` Charles Forsyth
2014-05-19 17:29                                 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-19 19:15                                   ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2014-05-19 19:44                                     ` Charles Forsyth
2014-05-19 20:51                                     ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-20  3:52                                     ` cinap_lenrek
2014-05-19  4:15                   ` lucio
2014-05-18  0:34 ` erik quanstrom
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-05-21 18:26 sl
2014-05-21 18:31 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-18  7:35 goo
2014-05-17 16:54 goo
2014-05-17 13:53 goo
2014-05-17 14:56 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-17 10:23 goo
2014-05-17 12:11 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-17 12:23   ` David du Colombier
2014-05-17 12:12 ` erik quanstrom

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