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To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000009d1cca0597fb6a7d" Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: 4115b66e-0da4-11ea-85b3-8141eec3e734 --0000000000009d1cca0597fb6a7d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not dead; more like Schr=C3=B6dinger's OS. On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 3:16 PM wrote: > most of these answers don't really answer the question everyone knows > op is asking. why do we always play these games? > > the answer is: no, vanilla plan 9 is not still alive. > > background: > > plan 9's creators all left bell labs many years ago, and none of them > use plan 9 anymore[0]. bell labs itself has changed hands a couple of > times since development of plan 9 came to its ignoble end. yes, some > third parties occasionally tinker. richard miller puts out code that > can be run on raspberry pi hardware. some other former heavy users > occasionally push piecemeal bits of personal projects into the public > eye. nobody takes any of it seriously because none of them really use > plan 9 to do anything people use computers to do[1]. which is not to > say their efforts aren't appreciated. thanks, guys. > > for some reason, when interested newbs show up on this mailing list > asking this same question, which happens from time to time, they're > always made to believe there exists a thriving community of devoted > plan 9 from bell labs users eager to point them towards resources > useful for running plan 9 on a computer manufactured after sbc > rebranded itself as at&t. > > 9front was created in 2011 because by then it had already been > apparent for several years that this was a baldfaced lie. > > failing a massive leak of all the code 9fans will swear to you they > are running on their modern computers, your choices include: > > - 9front (new drivers, modern cryptography, useful new programs) > - 9legacy (an attempt to combine patches from all extant personally > maintained copies of the plan 9 source tree) > > don't thank me until you've tried to get straight answers to follow-up > questions. > > sl > > [0] http://fqa.9front.org/fqa0.html#0.2.3 > > [1] i'm typing this on a thinkpad x250, over intel wifi/wpa2, running > 1920x1080 on the native lcd. it's running plan 9, but is sure ain't > vanilla[2]. > > [2] oh yeah, all the code is available here: > http://code.9front.org/hg/plan9front > > ------------------------------------------ > 9fans: 9fans > Permalink: > https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tf27e6479d8812712-M638dbd98d3e82c= 0062f4a8c0 > Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription > --0000000000009d1cca0597fb6a7d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Not dead; more like=C2=A0Schr=C3=B6dinger's= =C2=A0OS.

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 3:16 PM <sl@9front.org> wrote= :
most of these answers don't r= eally answer the question everyone knows
op is asking.=C2=A0 why do we always play these games?

the answer is: no, vanilla plan 9 is not still alive.

background:

plan 9's creators all left bell labs many years ago, and none of them use plan 9 anymore[0].=C2=A0 bell labs itself has changed hands a couple of=
times since development of plan 9 came to its ignoble end.=C2=A0 yes, some<= br> third parties occasionally tinker.=C2=A0 richard miller puts out code that<= br> can be run on raspberry pi hardware.=C2=A0 some other former heavy users occasionally push piecemeal bits of personal projects into the public
eye.=C2=A0 nobody takes any of it seriously because none of them really use=
plan 9 to do anything people use computers to do[1].=C2=A0 which is not to<= br> say their efforts aren't appreciated.=C2=A0 thanks, guys.

for some reason, when interested newbs show up on this mailing list
asking this same question, which happens from time to time, they're
always made to believe there exists a thriving community of devoted
plan 9 from bell labs users eager to point them towards resources
useful for running plan 9 on a computer manufactured after sbc
rebranded itself as at&t.

9front was created in 2011 because by then it had already been
apparent for several years that this was a baldfaced lie.

failing a massive leak of all the code 9fans will swear to you they
are running on their modern computers, your choices include:

- 9front (new drivers, modern cryptography, useful new programs)
- 9legacy (an attempt to combine patches from all extant personally
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 maintained copies of the plan 9 source tree)
don't thank me until you've tried to get straight answers to follow= -up
questions.

sl

[0] http://fqa.9front.org/fqa0= .html#0.2.3

[1] i'm typing this on a thinkpad x250, over intel wifi/wpa2, running 1920x1080 on the native lcd.=C2=A0 it's running plan 9, but is sure ain= 't
vanilla[2].

[2] oh yeah, all the code is available here:
http://code.9front.org/hg/plan9= front

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