From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: Noah Evans Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:42:54 +0200 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [9fans] nix at lsub Topicbox-Message-UUID: 76e54506-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 I'd like to correct one more misunderstanding and expand a bit more. Nix is not just work done at lsub (although I'll be the first to admit that most of the recent work has been done at lsub), it was a collaboration between Bell Labs, Sandia and lsub (of which my technical contributions have been very small). One of the goals in using google code and codereview is to establish a place to collaborate independent of all parties, the codereview process was established that all parties were represented and there was a clear and transparent process where *anyone* who wanted to contribute could and feel that their contributions were being considered for technical rather than political reasons. Noah On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 7:32 PM, Noah Evans wrote: > There's a bit of drama going on right now. Here's what I wrote in a > private mail to Steve Simon: > > I don't think anybody really liked hg from a technical standpoint. > > There were two reasons behind choosing it: > > 1. It would be trivial to get a 9vx nix distro up and running on Macs > and Linux machines. > > 2. Codereview would ensure a transparent and open development process. > > Patch can be used for 1 to some extent (via the tarball) but it fails > for 2. It makes some members of the community "more equal" than > others. > > I think those of us sticking with hg are doing so more for social > reasons than technical ones. > > Noah > > > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Aram H=C4=83v=C4=83rneanu wrote: >> Noah Evans wrote: >>> To clarify, Nix development will be continuing at both >>> nix-dev@googlegroups.com and http://code.google.com/p/nix-os as well. >>> The project has forked. >> >> I don't understand what is going on. I though some people were very >> unsatisfied with the rietveld code review tool offered by Google Code, >> and Nemo created some new tools to be used instead of rietveld and >> mercurial. Of course Nemo's tools don't work with Google Code hosting >> so the project is moved at lsub, and by design the old mailing list, >> nix-dev@googlegroups.com, is tied with the Google Code project, so a >> new mailing list has to be used instead. >> >> So what's this fork I'm hearing about? Someone wants to maintain the >> mercurial repository independent of the work done at lsub? Who? Why? >> >> If this is not the case, and I hope it isn't, destroy the Google Code >> project. Delete it, there's no point for this confusion. Personally I >> would have preferred that the mercurial repository would have remained >> the place where nix development would happen. I believe the problems >> people felt with rietveld could be solved by running a private >> instance of rietveld, instead of the generic one at Google, but >> whatever, I have no say in this. Just keep it in one place if there's >> no schism happening. >> >> So what's happening? John's message on nix-dev@ adds more to this confus= ion... >> >> -- >> Aram H=C4=83v=C4=83rneanu >>