* Re: [9fans] how up to date are the PDF doc files on plan9.bell-labs.com?
2012-05-02 17:19 ` Aharon Robbins
@ 2012-05-02 17:44 ` erik quanstrom
2012-05-02 18:37 ` Taj Khattra
2012-05-02 20:40 ` Anthony Sorace
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From: erik quanstrom @ 2012-05-02 17:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
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> Is anyone updating at least the troff versions of the papers? That is,
> if I go with the source, will I get something (more) current?
>
> > > Stick with the source if you have doubts.
> >
> > Actually, that's not even necessary. The online HTML
> > version gets the latest changes. You'll only need the
> > sources if you want to generate PS/PDF explicitly, say
> > for printing.
>
> Well, actually printing is what I had in mind, but maybe I'm being
> too much of a luddite.
>
> Has anyone tried producing the doc using groff under Linux, or would
> it require a running Plan 9 system to correctly (re)generate everything?
some of the .ms are updated ... here are the most recent.
--rw-rw-r-- M 764 glenda sys 18522 Jun 16 2011 port.ms
--rw-rw-r-- M 764 glenda sys 30524 Oct 13 2011 compiler.ms
--rw-rw-r-- M 764 glenda sys 37928 Jan 6 13:52 comp.ms
--rw-rw-r-- M 764 glenda sys 31666 Jan 21 20:34 asm.ms
there's a mkfile in /sys/doc which should update all the ps.
groff probablly won't do a good job unless you fix the fonts.
- erik
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* Re: [9fans] how up to date are the PDF doc files on plan9.bell-labs.com?
2012-05-02 17:19 ` Aharon Robbins
2012-05-02 17:44 ` erik quanstrom
@ 2012-05-02 18:37 ` Taj Khattra
2012-05-02 20:40 ` Anthony Sorace
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From: Taj Khattra @ 2012-05-02 18:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
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> Has anyone tried producing the doc using groff under Linux, or would
> it require a running Plan 9 system to correctly (re)generate everything?
>
not sure about groff, but i think they should be reproducible under linux
using plan9port troff.
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* Re: [9fans] how up to date are the PDF doc files on plan9.bell-labs.com?
2012-05-02 17:19 ` Aharon Robbins
2012-05-02 17:44 ` erik quanstrom
2012-05-02 18:37 ` Taj Khattra
@ 2012-05-02 20:40 ` Anthony Sorace
2012-05-02 21:01 ` Matthew Veety
2012-05-03 16:54 ` [9fans] how up to date are the PDF doc files onplan9.bell-labs.com? Tristan
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From: Anthony Sorace @ 2012-05-02 20:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
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> Is anyone updating at least the troff versions of the papers? That is,
> if I go with the source, will I get something (more) current?
It varies by paper. Some are updated, some not. The papers on the
compiler suite get some updates, but the 8½ paper not. That paper,
for example, provides a really good view on how one could use the
system principles to construct a window system; the fact that the
current window system is constructed differently doesn't really
change that.
> Well, actually printing is what I had in mind, but maybe I'm being
> too much of a luddite.
Nothing wrong with printing. Having a physical copy of the manual
is invaluable when things go sideways, and reading the papers on
a high-DPI, non-reflective surface is a joy. Since I don't believe
anyone has Plan 9 driving an e-Ink display (anyone? anyone?),
paper does nicely.
> Has anyone tried producing the doc using groff under Linux, or would
> it require a running Plan 9 system to correctly (re)generate everything?
As others have said, I suspect groff will have issues (I have no idea
how to test that locally), but I can confirm that p9p's works as
expected.
Anthony
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* Re: [9fans] how up to date are the PDF doc files on plan9.bell-labs.com?
2012-05-02 20:40 ` Anthony Sorace
@ 2012-05-02 21:01 ` Matthew Veety
2012-05-03 16:54 ` [9fans] how up to date are the PDF doc files onplan9.bell-labs.com? Tristan
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From: Matthew Veety @ 2012-05-02 21:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
On May 2, 2012, at 4:40 PM, Anthony Sorace wrote:
> Since I don't believe anyone has Plan 9 driving an e-Ink display
> (anyone? anyone?),
> paper does nicely.
Maybe a good addition to the ARM port?
--
Veety
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* Re: [9fans] how up to date are the PDF doc files onplan9.bell-labs.com?
2012-05-02 20:40 ` Anthony Sorace
2012-05-02 21:01 ` Matthew Veety
@ 2012-05-03 16:54 ` Tristan
2012-05-03 17:45 ` Aharon Robbins
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From: Tristan @ 2012-05-03 16:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> Nothing wrong with printing. Having a physical copy of the manual
> is invaluable when things go sideways, and reading the papers on
> a high-DPI, non-reflective surface is a joy. Since I don't believe
> anyone has Plan 9 driving an e-Ink display (anyone? anyone?),
> paper does nicely.
i'm hoping to have a prototype together for iwp9 that will include an
epaper display of some sort (E Ink is not very responsive).
enjoy,
tristan
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* Re: [9fans] how up to date are the PDF doc files onplan9.bell-labs.com?
2012-05-03 16:54 ` [9fans] how up to date are the PDF doc files onplan9.bell-labs.com? Tristan
@ 2012-05-03 17:45 ` Aharon Robbins
2012-05-03 17:59 ` Brian L. Stuart
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From: Aharon Robbins @ 2012-05-03 17:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> > Nothing wrong with printing. Having a physical copy of the manual
> > is invaluable when things go sideways, and reading the papers on
> > a high-DPI, non-reflective surface is a joy. Since I don't believe
> > anyone has Plan 9 driving an e-Ink display (anyone? anyone?),
> > paper does nicely.
>
> i'm hoping to have a prototype together for iwp9 that will include an
> epaper display of some sort (E Ink is not very responsive).
Sounds cool!
I just activated my Kindle. I mailed myself the PDF of gawk.1 (of course).
At fit-to-screen it's too small, but rotated and increased size it's better.
As an emergency place to keep the Plan 9 manuals, it sure beats lugging
around all that paper. :-) I'll be experimenting some more.
Thanks!
Arnold
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* Re: [9fans] how up to date are the PDF doc files onplan9.bell-labs.com?
2012-05-03 17:45 ` Aharon Robbins
@ 2012-05-03 17:59 ` Brian L. Stuart
2012-05-03 18:15 ` hiro
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From: Brian L. Stuart @ 2012-05-03 17:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
> I just activated my Kindle. I mailed myself the PDF of
> gawk.1 (of course).
> At fit-to-screen it's too small, but rotated and increased
> size it's better.
>
> As an emergency place to keep the Plan 9 manuals, it sure
> beats lugging
> around all that paper. :-) I'll be experimenting some
> more.
I've done some fiddling with the ms macros to add Kindle
support. What I have is:
. \" Override page/font parameters for Kindle
.if '\nK'1' \{\
.nr PS 7
.nr VS 8
.nr LL 3i
.nr TL 3i
.nr PD 0
.nr PI 3n
.nr PO 0.1i
.po 0.1i
.nr HM 0.1i
.nr FM 0.1i
.ds LH
.ds CH
.ds RH
.ds LF
.ds CF
.ds RF
.pl 4i
.tl
\}
.el \{\
.po 1.25i
.nr PO 1.25i
\}
You activate Kindle formatting by setting the K register
to 1. The biggest issue I've run into are tables and
figures that need the space of a larger page. As for
man pages, There's already a register (s) you can set
to 1 to get it format for 9" pages. That does improve
things a bit in portrait orientation scaled to fit the
screen.
Those might at least give you a good starting point.
BLS
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* Re: [9fans] how up to date are the PDF doc files onplan9.bell-labs.com?
2012-05-03 17:59 ` Brian L. Stuart
@ 2012-05-03 18:15 ` hiro
2012-05-03 21:12 ` Mohamed
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From: hiro @ 2012-05-03 18:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Brian L. Stuart <blstuart@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> I just activated my Kindle. I mailed myself the PDF of
>> gawk.1 (of course).
>> At fit-to-screen it's too small, but rotated and increased
>> size it's better.
>>
>> As an emergency place to keep the Plan 9 manuals, it sure
>> beats lugging
>> around all that paper. :-) I'll be experimenting some
>> more.
>
> I've done some fiddling with the ms macros to add Kindle
> support. What I have is:
>
> . \" Override page/font parameters for Kindle
> .if '\nK'1' \{\
> .nr PS 7
> .nr VS 8
> .nr LL 3i
> .nr TL 3i
> .nr PD 0
> .nr PI 3n
> .nr PO 0.1i
> .po 0.1i
> .nr HM 0.1i
> .nr FM 0.1i
> .ds LH
> .ds CH
> .ds RH
> .ds LF
> .ds CF
> .ds RF
> .pl 4i
> .tl
> \}
> .el \{\
> .po 1.25i
> .nr PO 1.25i
> \}
>
> You activate Kindle formatting by setting the K register
> to 1. The biggest issue I've run into are tables and
> figures that need the space of a larger page. As for
> man pages, There's already a register (s) you can set
> to 1 to get it format for 9" pages. That does improve
> things a bit in portrait orientation scaled to fit the
> screen.
>
> Those might at least give you a good starting point.
>
> BLS
>
>
Why don't you guys just print the pdf in landscape A5 format. Should
be readable on all e-ink devices.
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* Re: [9fans] how up to date are the PDF doc files onplan9.bell-labs.com?
2012-05-03 18:15 ` hiro
@ 2012-05-03 21:12 ` Mohamed
2012-05-03 21:40 ` Anthony Sorace
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From: Mohamed @ 2012-05-03 21:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
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Hi All,
Can anyone please zip the docs and email them to the group?
Thanks
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 2:15 PM, hiro <23hiro@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Brian L. Stuart <blstuart@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
> >> I just activated my Kindle. I mailed myself the PDF of
> >> gawk.1 (of course).
> >> At fit-to-screen it's too small, but rotated and increased
> >> size it's better.
> >>
> >> As an emergency place to keep the Plan 9 manuals, it sure
> >> beats lugging
> >> around all that paper. :-) I'll be experimenting some
> >> more.
> >
> > I've done some fiddling with the ms macros to add Kindle
> > support. What I have is:
> >
> > . \" Override page/font parameters for Kindle
> > .if '\nK'1' \{\
> > .nr PS 7
> > .nr VS 8
> > .nr LL 3i
> > .nr TL 3i
> > .nr PD 0
> > .nr PI 3n
> > .nr PO 0.1i
> > .po 0.1i
> > .nr HM 0.1i
> > .nr FM 0.1i
> > .ds LH
> > .ds CH
> > .ds RH
> > .ds LF
> > .ds CF
> > .ds RF
> > .pl 4i
> > .tl
> > \}
> > .el \{\
> > .po 1.25i
> > .nr PO 1.25i
> > \}
> >
> > You activate Kindle formatting by setting the K register
> > to 1. The biggest issue I've run into are tables and
> > figures that need the space of a larger page. As for
> > man pages, There's already a register (s) you can set
> > to 1 to get it format for 9" pages. That does improve
> > things a bit in portrait orientation scaled to fit the
> > screen.
> >
> > Those might at least give you a good starting point.
> >
> > BLS
> >
> >
>
> Why don't you guys just print the pdf in landscape A5 format. Should
> be readable on all e-ink devices.
>
>
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