From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Marshall Conover Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 16:48:32 +0000 Message-ID: To: "9fans@9fans.net" <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1145920a8cd493053cf3336b Subject: [9fans] Questions on the browser as a platform if plan 9 had gained marketshare Topicbox-Message-UUID: 9ffbb41e-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --001a1145920a8cd493053cf3336b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > Ken and rob are currently working at google trying to make sure it stays so - the idea being that if the stupid people that control the real OS can't be made to learn at least they'll make themselves an abstract environment that can hide the past and all the pain, to then work on interesting, more challenging ideas on the higher level (in the web) without distractions. So, to make sure I understand correctly, the idea is to leave the actual OS behind, and have all future development done entirely in the web, with the browser as an application platform/web services being the OS, and finding a way to make web services more composable? And this is being actively worked on by Rob and Ken? I'm tempted to somehow work in the 9front release title "Why not as a JS library?" Is there any more information on this? I'd be interested in seeing what a design like that would be like, and what challenges they're trying to address. The browser as a platform and the technologies around it seem like such a kludge after 20-some years of incremental, meandering progress, I'd think there might be a lot of difficulty trying to base a simple, solid system on them. Then again, I'm not a web dev, so I could be misunderstanding what goes on in that domain entirely. Thanks again! mars --001a1145920a8cd493053cf3336b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>=C2=A0=C2=A0Ken and rob are cu= rrently working at google trying to
make sure it stays so - th= e idea being that if the stupid people that
control the real O= S can't be made to learn at least they'll make
themsel= ves an abstract environment that can hide the past and all the
pain, to then work on interesting, more challenging ideas on thehigher level (in the web) without distractions.

So, to make sure I understand correctly, the idea is to= leave the actual OS behind, and have all future development done entirely = in the web, with the browser as an application platform/web services being = the OS, and finding a way to make web services more composable? And this is= being actively worked on by Rob and Ken? I'm tempted to somehow work i= n the 9front release title "Why not as a JS library?"

Is there any more information on this?= I'd be interested in seeing what a design like that would be like, and= what challenges they're trying to address. The browser as a platform a= nd the technologies around it seem like such a kludge after 20-some years o= f incremental, meandering progress, I'd think there might be a lot of d= ifficulty trying to base a simple, solid system on them.=C2=A0Then again, I'm not a web dev, so I could be misu= nderstanding what goes on in that domain entirely.

Thanks= again!

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