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From: Marshall Conover <marzhall.o@gmail.com>
To: "9fans@9fans.net" <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: [9fans] The Case for Bind
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2017 14:58:02 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAK0pxsHDGmk4jKV+WeOdV8u-oc4YB2sMQoz-uN67upG+utfhrA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)

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Hi All!

   I've been exploring the Fuchsia operating system, and while they have
per-process namespaces, they don't have a utility like plan 9's bind, nor a
method of supporting it by default in their system libraries. I've made
some progress on adding it (https://imgur.com/HELWbrQ), but enthusiasm for
the concept seems lukewarm, and I'm coming to the point where I feel I'm
going to need to make a strong argument for why it should be a feature of
their per-process namespace filesystem. As someone who's neither on their
team nor an employee of google, I feel that I'm going to need to make a
damn good argument - and I'd very much like to, as it really, *really* is
something I'd like to have easily within reach in a modern OS, and it seems
like such a low-hanging fruit of a feature.

I have two scenarios currently I feel make a strong argument for the
inclusion of bind: one is running tests on an install of a product while
still being able to do development on it, by using a bind to redirect the
development dll to the install's dll in the process I'm developing in; and
the other an example of when a bind would just be convenient, such as a
certain process needing python2 instead of python3 on a system which
defaults to python 3, and have scripts that reference #/bin/python.

So, I'd like to hear the community's thoughts on other uses of bind. I
think they'd be useful both for making my case for bind, and in thinking
about my continuing implementation of the command. I also want to implement
union mounting in the future (which I can get very-close-to-being-free with
my changes for umount), but right now bind is my focus.

Thanks for your time.

Marshall

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             reply	other threads:[~2017-09-14 14:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-14 14:58 Marshall Conover [this message]
2017-09-14 15:11 ` Kurt H Maier
2017-09-14 19:55 ` Marshall Conover
2017-09-14 20:25   ` Kurt H Maier
2017-09-14 21:40   ` Marshall Conover
2017-09-14 23:46     ` Micah Stetson
2017-09-15  0:53     ` Marshall Conover
2017-09-15  1:14       ` Devon H. O'Dell
2017-09-15  2:01       ` Marshall Conover
2017-09-15 11:59         ` Marshall Conover
2017-09-17 21:06           ` Marshall Conover
2017-09-18  8:31             ` Giacomo Tesio
2017-09-18 12:15             ` Marshall Conover
2017-09-15  9:45       ` Giacomo Tesio
2017-09-14 22:22 ` Aleksandar Kuktin
     [not found] <1312270110.2858999.1505498867019.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
2017-09-15 18:07 ` Brian L. Stuart
2017-09-15 19:54   ` Fran. J Ballesteros
2017-09-16  0:02   ` Chris McGee

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