From: andrey mirtchovski <mirtchovski@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] novel userspace paradigms introduced by plan 9
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 15:51:17 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAK4xykWmB8KTN0J+nFxRAsEA1YFeyoT9Zn96fiWgqy7xePayRA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP6exYL==vZsLOFozh5+DYoP3FvmhR16AOtPJf8_apK=-Sk=Rw@mail.gmail.com>
as a person who has spent the last three years exclusively in
user-level filesystems on Linux, I can safely say this -- my biggest
problem during that time has been the root user. from dealing with
programs which allow only root-level access (xen tools) to dealing
with programs who explicitly disallow root (PBS/torque) much more of
my time has been spent twiddling with permissions, sudo config scripts
and everything else involving root than actually writing the synthetic
user-level file system and getting it running.
it appears that every cluster of programs used to do anything
systems-y in Linux has a special view of uid 0 -- some revere it,
others fear it, but no two treat it the same way. only one piece of
software said "chgrp my device file to whoever you want to use it and
be free". it felt very Plan9-ey.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-07-03 21:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-07-02 16:15 Robert Seaton
2011-07-02 16:23 ` Jacob Todd
2011-07-17 12:37 ` Eugene Gorodinsky
2011-07-17 13:54 ` Charles Forsyth
2011-07-18 8:32 ` Eugene Gorodinsky
2011-07-18 17:14 ` Charles Forsyth
2011-07-19 7:50 ` Eugene Gorodinsky
2011-07-02 16:29 ` dexen deVries
2011-07-02 17:24 ` Jack Johnson
2011-07-02 17:34 ` [9fans] To p9 or not to p9? (was: novel userspace paradigms introduced by plan 9) dexen deVries
2011-07-02 18:23 ` [9fans] novel userspace paradigms introduced by plan 9 Eli Cohen
2011-07-02 18:36 ` dexen deVries
2011-07-02 23:10 ` simon softnet
2011-07-02 23:31 ` Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
2011-07-03 8:55 ` simon softnet
2011-07-03 11:06 ` Connor Lane Smith
2011-07-03 14:38 ` Iruatã Souza
2011-07-03 22:05 ` Charles Forsyth
2011-07-03 17:57 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2011-07-03 18:10 ` dexen deVries
2011-07-03 20:44 ` erik quanstrom
2011-07-03 20:53 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2011-07-03 20:57 ` erik quanstrom
2011-07-03 21:08 ` andrey mirtchovski
2011-07-03 21:29 ` ron minnich
2011-07-03 21:38 ` andrew zerger
2011-07-03 21:39 ` andrew zerger
2011-07-03 21:51 ` andrey mirtchovski [this message]
2011-07-17 16:25 ` Nicolas Bercher
[not found] ` <CAMdzYRr4_2JdEXaZ8cg=_9CJYzZr63HtEAtaG6x8WXGrPtp_DQ@mail.gmail.c>
2011-07-03 11:55 ` erik quanstrom
2011-07-03 12:32 ` Connor Lane Smith
[not found] ` <CAMdzYRowH+Y3UA4iyPy+4dP-cE064A6XZXvTbB1M-jBypu_ORw@mail.gmail.c>
2011-07-03 12:51 ` erik quanstrom
2011-07-03 13:13 ` Connor Lane Smith
2011-07-04 6:44 ` Yaroslav
2011-07-04 14:59 ` Robert Seaton
2011-07-16 10:52 ` simon softnet
2011-07-16 19:12 ` David Leimbach
2011-07-16 19:17 ` simon softnet
2011-07-16 19:32 ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2011-07-16 21:10 ` simon softnet
2011-07-17 9:38 ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2011-07-18 9:04 ` Balwinder S Dheeman
2011-07-18 9:30 ` dexen deVries
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