From: Lee Fallat <ircsurfer33@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Ideas from Plan-9
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 16:25:49 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKzHxzHH_omk57Jb6jt7ME0qHTZ7mTZrt7WWyFO5vtLT_1XGfg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABwHSOs=yVF96NKMSUJ-RPpmARw3v1ku_Gn7QBS5Kq-nLtz+sw@mail.gmail.com>
...Tell that to the people who are maintaining 9front and 9atom.
Oh wait, you just did.
My personal opinion: Plan 9 in its forked form will continue to be
used and worked for a long time. Hell, there are people still using
Amigas for "serious" computing! I too many times thinking about
bringing Plan 9 ideas to Linux or UNIX systems, with the conclusion
that the design principals are just too different. You have parts of
Plan 9 making it over to the other side, but Linux or BSD will never
be a Plan 9-like operating system- forever UNIX.
Regards,
Lee
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Blake McBride <blake@mcbride.name> wrote:
> This whole discussion has devolved into a political left vs. right like
> debate. Suffice it to say that without a critical mass of users, Bell Labs
> and/or Alcatel-Lucent will drop it, it will experience insufficient support
> from the user base at large, and it will suffer bit-rot until it won't boot
> anywhere anymore.
>
> Here is an exercise for fun too. Create your own written language, and
> write a bunch of books in it. Have fun.
>
> Blake
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 2:17 PM, erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>
> wrote:
>>
>> > "major piece among many" can be more precisely stated as "many pieces
>> > among
>> > many in order for the platform to achieve a critical mass of users".
>>
>> the metaphor "critical mass" is really tiresome one. it does not apply
>> to operating systems. if one person finds the os useful, then that's
>> enough.
>>
>> i'm not entirely clear how this metaphor is supposed to be interpreted,
>> but
>> perhaps the idea is that with lots of users, lots of software gets written
>> and
>> clearly more is better.
>>
>> or maybe not. plan 9 is a research system. for me that means we use it
>> as
>> it makes doing new and interesting things, or the same thing in an
>> interesting
>> way easy. so having piles of ported software is at best a distraction.
>>
>> - erik
>>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-12-15 21:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-12-15 17:05 Blake McBride
2013-12-15 17:18 ` Bence Fábián
2013-12-15 17:51 ` Blake McBride
2013-12-15 18:00 ` Bence Fábián
2013-12-15 18:43 ` Blake McBride
2013-12-15 20:30 ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-15 19:18 ` Steve Simon
2013-12-15 19:28 ` Blake McBride
2013-12-15 19:31 ` Steve Simon
2013-12-15 20:03 ` Blake McBride
2013-12-15 20:17 ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-15 21:17 ` Blake McBride
2013-12-15 21:23 ` Bence Fábián
2013-12-16 0:30 ` Blake McBride
2013-12-15 21:25 ` Lee Fallat [this message]
2013-12-15 22:17 ` Blake McBride
2013-12-15 22:06 ` Kurt H Maier
2013-12-15 22:30 ` Matthew Veety
2013-12-15 22:48 ` Tristan
2013-12-15 23:28 ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-17 0:29 ` Jeff Sickel
2013-12-17 4:09 ` Bruce Ellis
2013-12-18 9:47 ` Conor Williams
2013-12-18 20:51 ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-19 22:36 ` Conor Williams
2013-12-19 22:53 ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-19 23:15 ` Conor Williams
2013-12-20 0:29 ` Conor Williams
2013-12-20 0:37 ` Conor Williams
2013-12-20 0:56 ` Conor Williams
2013-12-20 1:44 ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-20 1:53 ` Conor Williams
2013-12-23 23:11 ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-23 23:44 ` Blake McBride
2013-12-24 0:29 ` David Arnold
2013-12-24 1:03 ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-24 3:13 ` Blake McBride
2013-12-24 3:30 ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-24 3:36 ` Blake McBride
2013-12-24 3:45 ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-15 18:59 ` Oleg
2013-12-15 19:13 ` Blake McBride
2013-12-15 20:19 ` Oleg
2013-12-15 20:43 ` Bence Fábián
2013-12-15 20:55 ` Oleg
2013-12-15 20:59 ` Bence Fábián
2013-12-15 20:47 ` Kurt H Maier
2013-12-16 21:26 ` Oleksandr Iakovliev
2013-12-16 21:47 ` Blake McBride
2013-12-16 21:55 ` Anthony Sorace
2013-12-16 22:08 ` Kurt H Maier
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-10-24 7:57 Keith
2013-12-15 18:43 ` Blake McBride
2013-12-16 4:54 ` David Arnold
2013-12-16 19:51 ` tyrrell t
2013-12-16 20:59 ` Charles Forsyth
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