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From: Strake <strake888@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] AMD64 system
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 23:36:25 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAL3m8eCtpX46SVbUD=8OW+F7suS+qyE_F4OxG8SeKNtnUX1F+Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADSkJJXWVtqMFxYBao6w1Ezq9P7Azc0UMxgJb9xXThSjakoBZA@mail.gmail.com>

On 25/04/2012, Russ Cox <rsc@swtch.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Strake <strake888@gmail.com> wrote:
>> What the hell? This is a waste and a fault. long at least ought to be
>> at least a machine word.
>
> Use vlong.  Why does it matter what it's called?

Not all programs that I use, I write.

>> The main one is this: I have a 64-bit machine, and I'll be damned if
>> my programs won't use every last one of them (^_~)
>
> They certainly won't.  The address space is really only 48 bits wide,
> and 47 for user space on most kernels.  Sorry to disappoint.

Machine words are nonetheless 64 bits wide.

> More generally, you showed up demanding things and basically
> being a jerk.

No. I demanded nothing. I simply said what I seek, and asked whether
it might be available. Clearly, it's not. I thought it might, since in
a prior thread there was vague reference to such. I never told anyone
to do it for me, and I never asked anyone to help me do it.

Some then asked me plainly what I need and why, so I responded; for
this, it seems, you call me jerk. My second message, I meant to be the
end of it. I said thanks for the link, and made some comments, which
were not imperative.

Some then asked me further questions, some of which asked me directly
what is wrong with X, for some X. When one asks me what is wrong with
X, I can only assume that one wishes to know my opinion on the matter,
so I declare it. Many were grievances against Plan 9 and its parts,
which I would otherwise keep to myself.

> People have explained the situation, you didn't pay
> anything for any of this, and we don't owe you anything.

All true. I never said otherwise.

> If you're
> not happy about the state of the Plan 9 world, write some code
> or stop whining.

I mean to do both.

Please remember what I said earlier:
I'd shut up if no one _asked_ me about it, but some did.

Please note this amendment: s/ if / iff /

Thanks to everyone who sent links to the amd64 bootloader and other help.

Cheers,
strake



  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-04-26  4:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CAL3m8eAf2Yjpg77wtykTSPnyKHxKHYc5YWfWH2L8CNjc86P1kA@mail.gmail.c>
2012-04-25 14:28 ` erik quanstrom
2012-04-25 18:04   ` Strake
2012-04-25 18:27     ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2012-04-25 18:49       ` Matthew Veety
2012-04-25 19:09         ` Strake
2012-04-25 19:15           ` John Floren
2012-04-25 19:57             ` Strake
2012-04-25 20:04               ` John Floren
2012-04-25 20:30                 ` Strake
2012-04-25 20:43                   ` John Floren
2012-04-26  1:11                     ` Strake
2012-04-26  1:21                       ` andrey mirtchovski
2012-04-26  1:24                         ` andy zerger
2012-04-26  1:49                       ` John Floren
2012-04-26  3:41                         ` Strake
2012-04-25 19:19           ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2012-04-25 20:01             ` Strake
2012-04-25 20:05               ` Gorka Guardiola
2012-04-25 20:08               ` Lyndon Nerenberg
     [not found]         ` <CAL3m8eCJughpHZ6htHyLyq9vORA+z5ajpWMbWjnCTVZ+YZRv9g@mail.gmail.c>
2012-04-25 19:36           ` erik quanstrom
     [not found]       ` <CA+4OWrwGgkYfuj2t4dkWsZHFex4oFTveDq_9A+yr=TsNpG0C8g@mail.gmail.c>
2012-04-25 18:56         ` erik quanstrom
2012-04-25 19:16           ` Strake
     [not found]           ` <CAL3m8eDJEo6o+srxuYpKSGDmM+0KgQhC15u7Qxg4TvnpO57Zgw@mail.gmail.c>
2012-04-25 19:32             ` erik quanstrom
2012-04-25 20:13               ` Strake
2012-04-25 20:20                 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2012-04-26  3:38                 ` Russ Cox
2012-04-26  4:04                   ` Devon H. O'Dell
2012-04-26  4:13                     ` andrey mirtchovski
2012-04-26  4:36                   ` Strake [this message]
2012-05-05 15:02                   ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2012-05-05 15:33               ` [9fans] integer width on AMD64 (was: Re: AMD64 system) dexen deVries
2012-05-05 16:41                 ` David du Colombier
2012-05-05 17:42                 ` erik quanstrom
2012-05-05 17:48                 ` Charles Forsyth
2012-05-05 17:52                   ` dexen deVries
2012-05-05 21:06                   ` Comeau At9Fans
2012-05-06  2:58                     ` [9fans] integer width on AMD64 Joel C. Salomon
2012-05-06  3:13                       ` Bruce Ellis
2012-05-06  8:46                       ` Comeau At9Fans
     [not found]                       ` <CAE9W7-gmaSYzx+4TK0LKtiHaZYC-4xz_DTbC_wqhsGo_7zXc0Q@mail.gmail.c>
2012-05-06 13:10                         ` erik quanstrom
2012-05-06 13:57                           ` Comeau At9Fans
2012-05-06  9:20                   ` [9fans] integer width on AMD64 (was: Re: AMD64 system) steve
2012-05-06 11:43                     ` Comeau At9Fans
2012-05-07  8:53                       ` steve
2012-05-07 10:01                         ` dexen deVries
2012-05-07 10:16                           ` Charles Forsyth
2012-05-07 10:27                           ` Charles Forsyth
2012-05-07 10:36                             ` dexen deVries
2012-05-08 19:04                               ` Comeau At9Fans
     [not found]                           ` <CAOw7k5h9QVUCrKr4jYU++sSWE6DHqbA_oFRwajyKbj7A0AjBWg@mail.gmail.c>
2012-05-07 12:11                             ` erik quanstrom
2012-05-07 12:32                           ` erik quanstrom
2012-05-07 12:44                         ` erik quanstrom
2012-05-08 19:14                           ` Comeau At9Fans
2012-05-05 21:00                 ` Comeau At9Fans
     [not found]   ` <CAL3m8eDMXC2STjFjBUurmdY5DynCOrpqwE-ViRuSubfF6HjBOw@mail.gmail.c>
2012-04-25 18:11     ` [9fans] AMD64 system erik quanstrom
2012-04-25 14:17 Strake
2012-04-25 14:26 ` Nemo
2012-04-25 14:31   ` Christoph Lohmann
2012-04-25 14:46     ` Nemo
2012-04-25 14:36 ` David du Colombier

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