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From: Conor Williams <conor.williams@gmail.com>
To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Problems installing 9legacy on bare metal (Thinkpad X60)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 14:37:35 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAL6pNZ-4To4-snX_nUu2o1p_9BYbRun9eC0_ceiVe_D3Z2UGpg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4571c9726fb1df822f366e1f97dccdbe@hamnavoe.com>

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hello mein names ist __insert name here___

this is not a 9front mailing list
ps: this is ...
when it was setup there was no 9front
9front is a breakaway republic designed to initially enhance P.8.72...
pps: the problem with break-away republic is that they may initially
have the best of intentions but soon realise that they may not
have the resources... a bit like my friend sam... /c:2022Jan23

On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 10:44 AM Richard Miller <9fans@hamnavoe.com> wrote:

> > !rc (and the rest of the boot) is one of the first things implemented
> uniquely by 9front.
> 
> I think there's a little bit of confusion about different stages of
> booting.
> 
> The 9boot program loads the kernel. The original Plan 9 9boot is driven
> by configuration variables in a plan9.ini file. Cinap's rewritten 9boot
> adds the capability of interactively changing configuration variables from
> the console before loading the kernel. That's really useful, especially
> when experimenting with new kernels or new hardware. But 9boot does not
> contain a shell or a built-in file system, so it doesn't allow you to
> type !rc and get an interactive shell.
> 
> Once the kernel is loaded, the first thing it does is to execute the
> command /boot/boot from a small root filesystem which is built into the
> kernel. The main job of /boot/boot is to attach to the real root filesystem
> (on a local device or from a network server) and execute /$cputype/init to
> start the system. Historically the usual case is for /boot/boot to
> be a specialised program built from C source in /sys/src/9/boot. But it
> has always been possible to configure a kernel with a shell script as
> /boot/boot - see for example /sys/lib/sysconfig/ppc/boot for the PowerPC,
> or /sys/src/9/bcm/bootwifi.rc for a Raspberry Pi accessing its root file
> server via wifi.
> 
> So, using a shell script as /boot/boot is not unique to 9front. But
> with 9front, it has become the default. This means there's always a
> shell inside the kernel, along with a few commands, ready to use
> interactively when !rc is invoked - after the kernel is loaded, but
> before the final root filesystem is attached.
> 
> The kernel on the 9legacy install CD doesn't have a shell script as
> /boot/boot with the ability to invoke !rc. Perhaps it should. But that
> wouldn't have helped in this case. Yakku was stuck at the 'Boot from'
> prompt within /9boot, unable to find a kernel to boot.
> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-23 14:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-20 15:31 yakkuliste
2022-01-21  5:52 ` Lucio De Re
2022-01-21 10:34 ` Richard Miller
2022-01-21 11:34   ` yakkuliste via 9fans
2022-01-21 13:20     ` Richard Miller
2022-01-21 13:33     ` yakkuliste via 9fans
2022-01-21 14:01       ` Richard Miller
2022-01-21 16:47         ` Richard Miller
2022-01-21 14:01       ` Thaddeus Woskowiak
2022-01-22 15:31         ` yakkuliste via 9fans
2022-01-22 16:07           ` Thaddeus Woskowiak
2022-01-23  2:17             ` Conor Williams
2022-01-23  8:27             ` Iruatã Souza
2022-01-23 10:43               ` Richard Miller
2022-01-23 14:37                 ` Conor Williams [this message]
2022-01-24  3:23                   ` Lucio De Re
2022-01-24  5:46                     ` adr
2022-01-24 10:31                       ` Lucio De Re
2022-01-27 12:47                         ` yakkuliste via 9fans
2022-01-24  0:59                 ` Thaddeus Woskowiak

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