and tim roberts on an unrelated topic is a bunch of un-ethical hackers
diminishing the intellect of the humanity /c:202109200851
hack the planet my fiends...

On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 8:45 AM Conor Williams <conor.williams@gmail.com>
wrote:

> i figured out the random hack which messed me up 12 years ago 2 days ago
> /c:f20
> and the buda bug is fixed on my system - took me 3 days strait to find
> it...
> and the fuseblk hack took a while /c:2021
>
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 8:39 AM Conor Williams <conor.williams@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> if it is a vfat filesystem it is ok....
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 8:37 AM Conor Williams <conor.williams@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> some of the fuseblk disc/k drivers/modules on peppermint which is a
>>> flavour of ubuntu
>>> are not even in the kernel space and there are mount.XYZ processes left
>>> open which are
>>> wide open to attack (with # fuser -p <PID>) /c09
>>> for those chips tings
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 8:24 AM hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> i think the main reason people are willing to fall for the android
>>>> platform is bec. there is no good long-term supply of updated phone
>>>> hardware with backwards-compatible interfaces.
>>>>
>>>> a lot of qualcomm and mediatek chipsets are being built, but instead
>>>> of documentation they only ship half-baked linux drivers, which are
>>>> often not even mainlined.
>>>>
>>>> those linux drivers are already hard to make work on actual linux
>>>> distributions, or even on android distributions.
>>>>
>>>> who wants to reverse-engineer the hardware over and over again based
>>>> on such linux drivers...
>>>>
>>>> On 9/20/21, Ethan Gardener <eekee57@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>>>> > tl;dr: forget inferno, port plan 9 to the pine phone.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, Sep 20, 2021, at 6:43 AM, Dave Eckhardt wrote:
>>>> >> > Anyone know if this project went anywhere?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~412/lectures/L05_Purge_Proposal.pdf
>>>> >
>>>> > I had to laugh at one of the slides. Inferno running natively on "x86
>>>> > supercomputer"? I think implementing multicore support would be a
>>>> first
>>>> > step, not to mention 64-bit! While it would be nice if those jobs
>>>> were done,
>>>> > they will take time and effort. Overall, if porting natively, I see
>>>> little
>>>> > sense in preferring Inferno to Plan 9, especially as Plan 9 already
>>>> supports
>>>> > 64-bit multicore.
>>>> >
>>>> >> Sadly, not.  One issue is that modern Android releases don't
>>>> >> support 32-bit executables, and at the time that project was
>>>> >> attempted Inferno was somewhat 32-bit (I haven't looked since).
>>>> >
>>>> > Recalling the issues Hellaphone had and the time it took, I'm of the
>>>> opinion
>>>> > that getting Inferno to work on any given phone's Linux kernel is
>>>> hardly
>>>> > more worthwhile than porting it directly to the hardware. The kernels
>>>> have
>>>> > undocumented interfaces.
>>>> >
>>>> > A current thread on OSdev (operating system development) forums is
>>>> looking
>>>> > at phones. It's a little rambly, but it reports on some encouraging
>>>> things.
>>>> > Lots of "baseband processors" (the phone-network communication
>>>> subsystems)
>>>> > have documented interfaces. There are at least 2 phones available now
>>>> which
>>>> > are fully open for operating system development: the PinePhone and the
>>>> > Librem 5. (5 is the screen size.) Of the 2, the Pine Phone seems
>>>> better, not
>>>> > least because it can boot from the SD card; useful for testing.
>>>> > https://forum.osdev.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=53251
>>>> >
>>>> > There's also the option of building your own phone out of components.
>>>> The
>>>> > thread has some info. I'm guessing most here would prefer a PinePhone.
>>>> >
>>>> >> But I think I saw some recent-ish Inferno-on-Android activity here:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>   https://github.com/bhgv/Inferno-OS-bhgv
>>>> >
>>>> > That's probably a good source of code. bhgv is a freelance programmer
>>>> who
>>>> > was very interested in Inferno and made several improvements including
>>>> > Truetype fonts. The last I heard was he tried to find paid work
>>>> involving
>>>> > Inferno but couldn't, so he didn't have time to work on it.

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