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From: Conor Williams <conor.williams@gmail.com>
To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] GSoC 2021 project ideas
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2021 08:58:17 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAL6pNZ_2N72LB=cwkguhd4afr7T4-KaEXsuigjz_M7ZSEd3DOQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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and dr john nelson in University Limerick -- a fine reputable uni down
south ireland (with
loads of good professor types and students (most of them anyways)
stole my fyp and bought me lunch and said nothing about nothing and then
told me to
fuck off over the phone when i was enquiring about doing a phd which i will
and has links into the psychaitric system and they keep locking me up to
hide their slimy pasts
and that my friends is not the end of that parrticular conundrum... keep
posted on irc... will let
u know what channel /c:202109200858:51

On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 8:52 AM Conor Williams <conor.williams@gmail.com>
wrote:

> and tim roberts on an unrelated topic is a bunch of un-ethical hackers
> diminishing the intellect of the humanity /c:202109200851
> hack the planet my fiends...
>
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 8:45 AM Conor Williams <conor.williams@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> i figured out the random hack which messed me up 12 years ago 2 days ago
>> /c:f20
>> and the buda bug is fixed on my system - took me 3 days strait to find
>> it...
>> and the fuseblk hack took a while /c:2021
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 8:39 AM Conor Williams <conor.williams@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> if it is a vfat filesystem it is ok....
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 8:37 AM Conor Williams <conor.williams@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> some of the fuseblk disc/k drivers/modules on peppermint which is a
>>>> flavour of ubuntu
>>>> are not even in the kernel space and there are mount.XYZ processes left
>>>> open which are
>>>> wide open to attack (with # fuser -p <PID>) /c09
>>>> for those chips tings
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 8:24 AM hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> i think the main reason people are willing to fall for the android
>>>>> platform is bec. there is no good long-term supply of updated phone
>>>>> hardware with backwards-compatible interfaces.
>>>>>
>>>>> a lot of qualcomm and mediatek chipsets are being built, but instead
>>>>> of documentation they only ship half-baked linux drivers, which are
>>>>> often not even mainlined.
>>>>>
>>>>> those linux drivers are already hard to make work on actual linux
>>>>> distributions, or even on android distributions.
>>>>>
>>>>> who wants to reverse-engineer the hardware over and over again based
>>>>> on such linux drivers...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/20/21, Ethan Gardener <eekee57@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>>>>> > tl;dr: forget inferno, port plan 9 to the pine phone.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Mon, Sep 20, 2021, at 6:43 AM, Dave Eckhardt wrote:
>>>>> >> > Anyone know if this project went anywhere?
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~412/lectures/L05_Purge_Proposal.pdf
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I had to laugh at one of the slides. Inferno running natively on "x86
>>>>> > supercomputer"? I think implementing multicore support would be a
>>>>> first
>>>>> > step, not to mention 64-bit! While it would be nice if those jobs
>>>>> were done,
>>>>> > they will take time and effort. Overall, if porting natively, I see
>>>>> little
>>>>> > sense in preferring Inferno to Plan 9, especially as Plan 9 already
>>>>> supports
>>>>> > 64-bit multicore.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Sadly, not.  One issue is that modern Android releases don't
>>>>> >> support 32-bit executables, and at the time that project was
>>>>> >> attempted Inferno was somewhat 32-bit (I haven't looked since).
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Recalling the issues Hellaphone had and the time it took, I'm of the
>>>>> opinion
>>>>> > that getting Inferno to work on any given phone's Linux kernel is
>>>>> hardly
>>>>> > more worthwhile than porting it directly to the hardware. The
>>>>> kernels have
>>>>> > undocumented interfaces.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > A current thread on OSdev (operating system development) forums is
>>>>> looking
>>>>> > at phones. It's a little rambly, but it reports on some encouraging
>>>>> things.
>>>>> > Lots of "baseband processors" (the phone-network communication
>>>>> subsystems)
>>>>> > have documented interfaces. There are at least 2 phones available
>>>>> now which
>>>>> > are fully open for operating system development: the PinePhone and
>>>>> the
>>>>> > Librem 5. (5 is the screen size.) Of the 2, the Pine Phone seems
>>>>> better, not
>>>>> > least because it can boot from the SD card; useful for testing.
>>>>> > https://forum.osdev.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=53251
>>>>> >
>>>>> > There's also the option of building your own phone out of
>>>>> components. The
>>>>> > thread has some info. I'm guessing most here would prefer a
>>>>> PinePhone.
>>>>> >> But I think I saw some recent-ish Inferno-on-Android activity here:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>   https://github.com/bhgv/Inferno-OS-bhgv
>>>>> >
>>>>> > That's probably a good source of code. bhgv is a freelance
>>>>> programmer who
>>>>> > was very interested in Inferno and made several improvements
>>>>> including
>>>>> > Truetype fonts. The last I heard was he tried to find paid work
>>>>> involving
>>>>> > Inferno but couldn't, so he didn't have time to work on it.

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-20  8:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-29 19:23 [9fans] Plan 9 Applying to GSoC 2021 Anthony Sorace
2021-02-01  0:31 ` ~vidak
2021-02-01  9:35   ` sirjofri
2021-02-01 11:07     ` svaderaa
2021-02-01 11:26   ` Bakul Shah
2021-02-02  1:15     ` raingloom
2021-02-01  7:16 ` [9fans] GSoC 2021 project ideas (WAS: Re: Plan 9 Applying to GSoC 2021) cigar562hfsp952fans
2021-02-01 20:46   ` Steve Simon
2021-02-03 14:14     ` Ethan Gardener
2021-02-01 21:47   ` [9fans] GSoC 2021 project ideas sirjofri
2021-02-03 14:07     ` Ethan Gardener
2021-08-06 16:25     ` Jack Johnson
2021-08-19 21:06       ` unobe
2021-09-20  4:52       ` [9fans] " cigar562hfsp952fans
2021-09-20  5:08         ` Conor Williams
2021-09-20  5:11         ` vidak
2021-09-20 15:02           ` ori
2021-09-20  5:43       ` [9fans] " Dave Eckhardt
2021-09-20  7:51         ` Ethan Gardener
2021-09-20  8:23           ` hiro
2021-09-20  8:37             ` Conor Williams
2021-09-20  8:39               ` Conor Williams
2021-09-20  8:45                 ` Conor Williams
2021-09-20  8:52                   ` Conor Williams
2021-09-20  8:58                     ` Conor Williams [this message]
2021-09-20 11:06                       ` Conor Williams
2021-09-21  9:01             ` Ethan Gardener
2021-09-20 11:05           ` sirjofri
2021-09-20 11:08             ` Conor Williams
2021-09-20 14:01               ` sirjofri
2021-09-21  9:25             ` Ethan Gardener
2021-02-02  8:29   ` [9fans] GSoC 2021 project ideas (WAS: Re: Plan 9 Applying to GSoC 2021) tlaronde
2021-02-03 15:07     ` Ethan Gardener
2021-01-19 11:08       ` pouya+lists.9fans
2021-02-03 18:58         ` Ethan Gardener
2021-02-06  2:17     ` David Arroyo
2021-02-03 18:26   ` ori
2021-02-03 23:31   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2021-02-05 16:42   ` Ethan Gardener
2021-02-07 22:59     ` [9fans] Re: GSoC 2021 project ideas cigar562hfsp952fans
2021-02-09  0:26       ` Steve Simon
2021-02-09  1:59         ` [9fans] " Jeff Sickel
2021-02-09  0:34       ` [9fans] " Ethan Gardener
2021-02-02  5:30 ` [9fans] Plan 9 Applying to GSoC 2021 ori
2021-02-02 10:40 ` [9fans] Project idea (was: Plan 9 Applying to GSoC 2021) sirjofri
2021-02-02 16:07 ` [9fans] Re: Plan 9 Applying to GSoC 2021 Jeff Sickel

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