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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable that 800 and odd book looks good Mart... will have a read of it with freud later hahaha /c:2021161015 ps: i have my masters degree document available and theres some info on Plan 9 in it too from 02-2003 On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 12:36 PM Mart Zirnask wrote: > Also, if you want an overview of the system, Nemo's book "Introduction > to Operating Systems Abstractions Using Plan 9 from Bell Labs" is an > awesome resource. > http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/9.intro.pdf > > Best, > Mart > > On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 at 13:14, Keith Gibbs wrote: > > > > Yeah, don't switch for simple tools like mothra, but as you learn > > more, there are strengths to both. > > > > I ran the "9miller" Pi version for a bit and as a retro computer > > collector and old software junkie, I enjoyed myself, but I played with > > VMs and then got some baremetal installs of 9front going. > > > > 9legacy is fantastic for the "historical preservation" end of things > > and it totally usable. I found myself more and more drawn to 9front > > because it is more about *using* Plan 9 for either specialized purpose > > or daily driver usage. I personally run a 9front cpu+auth server on > > my network with 9p/drawterm ports forwarded from my fiber hookup. In > > that way, I always have access to my 9 box from the office, from home, > > from anywhere. I use it for writing, C, Go, IRC, as well as a > > webserver. Also, since it is on my network, I can basically access > > any machine of mine via sshfs or 9p at any time, making it a Rosetta > > Stone of sorts. Most new software made by the community tends to be > > developed with 9front in mind/on 9front, so if you are looking for > > things like YouTube playback, security, a more modern browser (netsurf > > port), esoteric programming languages, etc. you will have an easier > > time on 9front. > > > > That being said, some really old stuff doesn't quite work the same as > > old old 9, which can get annoying if you find docs or software from > > decades ago, but that's less important for me personally. > > > > So get your feet wet! If you find you like the retro computing aspect > > most, 9legacy is a great distro. If you are most interested in > > modern/more experimental stuff, 9front is awesome. That being said, > > 9front is *not that far* from Plan 9 from Bell Labs 4th edition, > > especially compared to Harvey, Jehanne, or even Inferno in a lot of > > ways. Folks from both (actually *all*) communities are frequent > > readers/users of this mailing list. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > -pixelheresy > > > > Quoth joseph turco : > > > Your quite right, I wouldn't switch to 9front for that reason, but is > nice > > > that 9front does have more secure protocols in place. I stuck with be= ll > > > labs because the RPI iso was right there I wanted to see the OS from > the > > > beginning. Its also why I have the bootable 9legacy USB for my old > desktop, > > > but that's sitting around until I can figure out the OS, so then I can > get > > > it running how I want on there, and link up the systems so that the > desktop > > > acts as a shared fs. ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T4e8989ee42951fa0-M4dc6d= 56afd7e46e95a867f3e Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription --00000000000029c67305ce78db68 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
that 800 and odd book looks good Mart...<= /div>
will have a read of it with freud later hahaha
/c:20211= 61015
ps: i have my masters degree document available and theres<= /div>
some info on Plan 9 in it too from 02-2003

On Sat, O= ct 16, 2021 at 12:36 PM Mart Zirnask <martzirnask@gmail.com> wrote:
Also, if you want an overview of the system, = Nemo's book "Introduction
to Operating Systems Abstractions Using Plan 9 from Bell Labs" is an awesome resource.
http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/9.intro.pd= f

Best,
Mart

On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 at 13:14, Keith Gibbs <k@pixelheresy.com> wrote:
>
> Yeah, don't switch for simple tools like mothra, but as you learn<= br /> > more, there are strengths to both.
>
> I ran the "9miller" Pi version for a bit and as a retro comp= uter
> collector and old software junkie, I enjoyed myself, but I played with=
> VMs and then got some baremetal installs of 9front going.
>
> 9legacy is fantastic for the "historical preservation" end o= f things
> and it totally usable.  I found myself more and more drawn to 9fr= ont
> because it is more about *using* Plan 9 for either specialized purpose=
> or daily driver usage.  I personally run a 9front cpu+auth server= on
> my network with 9p/drawterm ports forwarded from my fiber hookup. = ; In
> that way, I always have access to my 9 box from the office, from home,=
> from anywhere.  I use it for writing, C, Go, IRC, as well as a > webserver.  Also, since it is on my network, I can basically acce= ss
> any machine of mine via sshfs or 9p at any time, making it a Rosetta > Stone of sorts.  Most new software made by the community tends to= be
> developed with 9front in mind/on 9front, so if you are looking for
> things like YouTube playback, security, a more modern browser (netsurf=
> port), esoteric programming languages, etc.  you will have an eas= ier
> time on 9front.
>
> That being said, some really old stuff doesn't quite work the same= as
> old old 9, which can get annoying if you find docs or software from > decades ago, but that's less important for me personally.
>
> So get your feet wet!  If you find you like the retro computing a= spect
> most, 9legacy is a great distro.  If you are most interested in > modern/more experimental stuff, 9front is awesome.  That being sa= id,
> 9front is *not that far* from Plan 9 from Bell Labs 4th edition,
> especially compared to Harvey, Jehanne, or even Inferno in a lot of > ways.  Folks from both (actually *all*) communities are frequent<= br /> > readers/users of this mailing list.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> -pixelheresy
>
> Quoth joseph turco <italian.pepe.32@gmail.com>:
> > Your quite right, I wouldn't switch to 9front for that reason= , but is nice
> > that 9front does have more secure protocols in place. I stuck wit= h bell
> > labs because the RPI iso was right there I wanted to see the OS f= rom the
> > beginning. Its also why I have the bootable 9legacy USB for my ol= d desktop,
> > but that's sitting around until I can figure out the OS, so t= hen I can get
> > it running how I want on there, and link up the systems so that t= he desktop
> > acts as a shared fs.

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