On 1/25/24 09:35, Don Bailey wrote:
> Direction comes from people writing code... but you write code for 9front, yes? What does that have to do with mainline Plan 9? And what does that have to do with the direction set forth by the people that actually designed it? 

There is no "path for patches" in 9legacy, if I wanted to write code for "mainline Plan 9" who do
I send to code to? Who is going to help review and bug test my code. You mentioned earlier that
you had ported Plan 9 to other systems, is that code available anywhere, was that upstreamed into
"mainline Plan 9". 9front happened, as Ori stated, because there was no path forward with "mainline
Plan 9".

When I looked in to Plan 9 some 5ish years ago and looking at both camps of folks it was clear to me
that one group was going to look at my patches, work on my hardware, and had an active community.

If y'all wanted to set up a pipeline for patches, encourage folks to send in their patches and make
some repo for folks to work on then yeah sure. But right now there really isn't a comparison between
what "mainline plan 9" is and 9front, one is a museum and the other is a living distribution. There is
of course Miller's branch, which I respect as being active and actually usable, but I have a feeling you
don't consider that "mainline plan 9" either.

Look man, be the change you want to see in the world, setup the repo, review patches, merge new code, et
all. Getting mad at us for writing the code and keeping stuff working is a bit silly, especially if your
only reason is that we aren't the "blessed few". Those folks as far as I can tell are not interested in
this anymore, we're on our own here. There are clearly some folks interested here in continuing "mainline
plan 9" why not work together and get something that is easier for folks to use? 9front will continue to
be over here with a ten year plus head start.

- moody


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