From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20181005050936.s6jfxqfxr3pymocp@v520.kathe.in> In-Reply-To: <20181005050936.s6jfxqfxr3pymocp@v520.kathe.in> From: Tyga Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 19:06:44 +1000 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000db7bca0577779779" Subject: Re: [9fans] what heavy negativity! Topicbox-Message-UUID: e8308cbe-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --000000000000db7bca0577779779 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Mayuresh ! Can't help offering the quote: *First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. * *Mahatma Gandhi* I have read with considerable bemusement the many responses to your proposal. Granted that it does look like a huge challenge. Knowledgeable people can see many problems with what you are contemplating. But you have to remember that you might learn a great deal if you attempt your idea and sometimes good things come from attempting grand challenges. Just think what would have happened if Columbus had given up when his proposal was first rejected. May I suggest that you overlook the emotional negativity and look at the technical specifics of why many others see your proposal as foolhardy. Then having given due consideration to the technical issues and your resources (both time and knowledge) you would be in a far better position to make an informed decision. IMHO Plan9 offers a great deal of potential but is hamstrung by the lack of resources to advance device drivers and accommodate the evolution of hardware since the times it was designed. To many people the visual aspects of the user interface are unappealing and yet to others that is exactly what appeals to them. So it is impossible to please all the people all the time. I for one, would very much like to see the Plan9 architecture and thus concepts become available within more mainstream environments. On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 at 15:11, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > man, i experienced such heavy negativity towards my efforts to build a > linux kernel based plan9port vehicle that i am sure considering > abandoning the effort. > > the idea was to have a 64-bit linux kernel with the advantages of > plan9port (small and elegantly designed+developed tools). > > no, really, there was too much negativity. > > sorry that i bothered you all. > > ~mayuresh > > > --000000000000db7bca0577779779 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Mayuresh !

Can't help offering t= he quote:

Mahatma Gandhi

I have read with considerable bemusement the many responses to = your proposal.=C2=A0 Granted that it does look like a huge challenge.=C2=A0= Knowledgeable people can see many problems with what you are contemplating= .=C2=A0 But you have to remember that you might learn a great deal if you a= ttempt your idea and sometimes good things come from attempting grand chall= enges. Just think what would have happened if Columbus had given up when hi= s proposal was first rejected.

May I suggest that you overlook the emotional negativity and look at th= e technical specifics of why many others see your proposal as foolhardy.=C2= =A0 Then having given due consideration to the technical issues and your re= sources (both time and knowledge) you would be in a far better position to = make an informed decision.

= IMHO Plan9 offers a great deal of potential but is hamstrung by the lack of= resources to advance device drivers and accommodate the evolution of hardw= are since the times it was designed.=C2=A0 To many people the visual aspect= s of the user interface are unappealing and yet to others that is exactly w= hat appeals to them.=C2=A0 So it is impossible to please all the people all= the time.=C2=A0 I for one, would very much like to see the Plan9 architect= ure and thus concepts become available within more mainstream environments.=





On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 at 15:11, Mayuresh Kathe <mayuresh@kathe.in> wrote:
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man, i experienced such heavy negativity tow= ards my efforts to build a
linux kernel based plan9port vehicle that i am sure considering
abandoning the effort.

the idea was to have a 64-bit linux kernel with the advantages of
plan9port (small and elegantly designed+developed tools).

no, really, there was too much negativity.

sorry that i bothered you all.

~mayuresh


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