* [9fans] Plan9 on radpberry pi zero ? @ 2019-08-16 8:38 Олег Бахарев 2019-08-16 10:02 ` Rodrigo G. López 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Олег Бахарев @ 2019-08-16 8:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 60 bytes --] Is it possible to install Plan 9 on the Raspberry Pi Zero? [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 390 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Plan9 on radpberry pi zero ? 2019-08-16 8:38 [9fans] Plan9 on radpberry pi zero ? Олег Бахарев @ 2019-08-16 10:02 ` Rodrigo G. López 2019-08-16 11:22 ` Олег Бахарев 2019-08-16 11:23 ` Richard Miller 0 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Rodrigo G. López @ 2019-08-16 10:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 319 bytes --] it works the same as the rpi, no? if so, probably yes. burn the .img into an sdcard and try it out. report back any the results. regards -rodri On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, 10:40 AM Олег Бахарев <disconnectix@gmail.com> wrote: > Is it possible to install Plan 9 on the Raspberry Pi Zero? > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1090 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Plan9 on radpberry pi zero ? 2019-08-16 10:02 ` Rodrigo G. López @ 2019-08-16 11:22 ` Олег Бахарев 2019-08-16 11:23 ` Richard Miller 1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Олег Бахарев @ 2019-08-16 11:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 595 bytes --] But is it possible to assemble ISO from under Plan 9? Purely from the system itself? Of course. I will tell you the results as soon as the Raspberry Pi Zero arrives. пт, 16 авг. 2019 г., 13:04 Rodrigo G. López <rodrigosloop@gmail.com>: > it works the same as the rpi, no? > if so, probably yes. > > burn the .img into an sdcard and try it out. report back any the results. > > > regards > > -rodri > > > On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, 10:40 AM Олег Бахарев <disconnectix@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Is it possible to install Plan 9 on the Raspberry Pi Zero? >> >> [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1777 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Plan9 on radpberry pi zero ? 2019-08-16 10:02 ` Rodrigo G. López 2019-08-16 11:22 ` Олег Бахарев @ 2019-08-16 11:23 ` Richard Miller 2019-08-16 11:29 ` Олег Бахарев 1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Richard Miller @ 2019-08-16 11:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > burn the .img into an sdcard and try it out. The current SD card image https://9p.io/sources/contrib/miller/9pi.img.gz has a flaw in the bootable kernel which makes it wait forever for a usb ethernet adapter, which isn't there on the pi zero. So, after burning the SD card, please copy https://9p.io/sources/contrib/miller/9pi to the DOS partition - this is a newer kernel which fixes the problem. I will get around to updating the 9pi.img.gz Real Soon Now. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Plan9 on radpberry pi zero ? 2019-08-16 11:23 ` Richard Miller @ 2019-08-16 11:29 ` Олег Бахарев 2019-08-16 11:38 ` Richard Miller 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Олег Бахарев @ 2019-08-16 11:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 670 bytes --] Cool. Thank you very much)) It is very pleasing. By the way, in plan 9, are things with RISC-V? пт, 16 авг. 2019 г., 14:25 Richard Miller <9fans@hamnavoe.com>: > > burn the .img into an sdcard and try it out. > > The current SD card image https://9p.io/sources/contrib/miller/9pi.img.gz > has a flaw in the bootable kernel which makes it wait forever for a > usb ethernet adapter, which isn't there on the pi zero. So, after burning > the SD card, please copy https://9p.io/sources/contrib/miller/9pi to the > DOS partition - this is a newer kernel which fixes the problem. > > I will get around to updating the 9pi.img.gz Real Soon Now. > > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1303 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Plan9 on radpberry pi zero ? 2019-08-16 11:29 ` Олег Бахарев @ 2019-08-16 11:38 ` Richard Miller 2019-08-16 13:25 ` Олег Бахарев 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Richard Miller @ 2019-08-16 11:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > By the way, in plan 9, are > things with RISC-V? I have a working (but not very thoroughly tested) plan 9 C compiler, assembler, and loader for RV32IM. I believe there was a Harvey OS version for RISC-V -- does anyone have up to date info about that? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Plan9 on radpberry pi zero ? 2019-08-16 11:38 ` Richard Miller @ 2019-08-16 13:25 ` Олег Бахарев 2019-08-16 13:54 ` [9fans] RISC-V (was: Plan9 on radpberry pi zero ?) Richard Miller 2019-08-19 14:42 ` [9fans] Plan9 on radpberry pi zero ? Ethan Gardener 0 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Олег Бахарев @ 2019-08-16 13:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 544 bytes --] Do you mean something like BlackIce II (I'm under RV32I)? There is still one interesting board (inexpensive) on the RISC V 64 bit (RV64IMAG) - if you want I will show where to get пт, 16 авг. 2019 г., 14:40 Richard Miller <9fans@hamnavoe.com>: > > By the way, in plan 9, are > > things with RISC-V? > > I have a working (but not very thoroughly tested) plan 9 C compiler, > assembler, and loader for RV32IM. > > I believe there was a Harvey OS version for RISC-V -- does anyone > have up to date info about that? > > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1026 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* [9fans] RISC-V (was: Plan9 on radpberry pi zero ?) 2019-08-16 13:25 ` Олег Бахарев @ 2019-08-16 13:54 ` Richard Miller 2019-08-16 20:10 ` Олег Бахарев 2019-08-16 22:54 ` minux 2019-08-19 14:42 ` [9fans] Plan9 on radpberry pi zero ? Ethan Gardener 1 sibling, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Richard Miller @ 2019-08-16 13:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > Do you mean something like BlackIce II (I'm under RV32I)? Yes, I have tried various soft cores on BlackIce (including one of my own design, for fun); also real silicon HiFive-1. So far none of these has had an MMU, which is required for Plan 9 (though not for Inferno). ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] RISC-V (was: Plan9 on radpberry pi zero ?) 2019-08-16 13:54 ` [9fans] RISC-V (was: Plan9 on radpberry pi zero ?) Richard Miller @ 2019-08-16 20:10 ` Олег Бахарев 2019-08-18 12:05 ` Richard Miller 2019-08-16 22:54 ` minux 1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Олег Бахарев @ 2019-08-16 20:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 515 bytes --] that is, blackice II will not start? (yes, by the way, how small the world is - you and I, Richard, cross each other on the mystorm forum) пт, 16 авг. 2019 г., 16:56 Richard Miller <9fans@hamnavoe.com>: > > Do you mean something like BlackIce II (I'm under RV32I)? > > Yes, I have tried various soft cores on BlackIce (including > one of my own design, for fun); also real silicon HiFive-1. > So far none of these has had an MMU, which is required for > Plan 9 (though not for Inferno). > > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 934 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] RISC-V (was: Plan9 on radpberry pi zero ?) 2019-08-16 20:10 ` Олег Бахарев @ 2019-08-18 12:05 ` Richard Miller 0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Richard Miller @ 2019-08-18 12:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > that is, blackice II will not start? I think it should be possible to add an MMU to a small RISC-V core (eg picorv32) to fit on BlackIce II or MX, but I haven't tried it myself. You would also need some external RAM. I've been experimenting with an 8MB hyperram chip, which is enough for bootstrapping the C compiler in a "bare metal" setting, but a full Plan 9 would need lots more. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] RISC-V (was: Plan9 on radpberry pi zero ?) 2019-08-16 13:54 ` [9fans] RISC-V (was: Plan9 on radpberry pi zero ?) Richard Miller 2019-08-16 20:10 ` Олег Бахарев @ 2019-08-16 22:54 ` minux 2019-08-17 5:57 ` Олег Бахарев 1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: minux @ 2019-08-16 22:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 9:56 AM Richard Miller <9fans@hamnavoe.com> wrote: > > Do you mean something like BlackIce II (I'm under RV32I)? > > Yes, I have tried various soft cores on BlackIce (including > one of my own design, for fun); also real silicon HiFive-1. > So far none of these has had an MMU, which is required for > Plan 9 (though not for Inferno). Speaking of RISC-V with MMU for Plan 9, Kendryte K210 is a 28nm MCU with dual core RV64GC and Linux capable MMU (!). It has 8MB onchip SRAM and also NN, FFT accelerators. I think that makes a good platform for Plan 9 on RISC-V, on a real silicon. It also has a lot of really cheap evaluation board options available. (The only other currently available RV64GC w/ MMU silicon is the Hifive unleashed, which is very expensive.) The only major problem of K210 is that its IO capabilities are fairly limited and you need external Ethernet/Wifi solutions on SPI bus, which is likely slow. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] RISC-V (was: Plan9 on radpberry pi zero ?) 2019-08-16 22:54 ` minux @ 2019-08-17 5:57 ` Олег Бахарев 0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Олег Бахарев @ 2019-08-17 5:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1199 bytes --] By the way, I meant kendryte k210. and the board, for example, maix bit, is very cheap (you can get a stock from Bangood.com) сб, 17 авг. 2019 г., 1:56 minux <minux.ma@gmail.com>: > On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 9:56 AM Richard Miller <9fans@hamnavoe.com> wrote: > > > Do you mean something like BlackIce II (I'm under RV32I)? > > > > Yes, I have tried various soft cores on BlackIce (including > > one of my own design, for fun); also real silicon HiFive-1. > > So far none of these has had an MMU, which is required for > > Plan 9 (though not for Inferno). > > Speaking of RISC-V with MMU for Plan 9, Kendryte K210 is a 28nm MCU > with dual core RV64GC and Linux capable MMU (!). It has 8MB onchip > SRAM and also NN, FFT accelerators. > I think that makes a good platform for Plan 9 on RISC-V, on a real silicon. > It also has a lot of really cheap evaluation board options available. > (The only other currently available RV64GC w/ MMU silicon is the > Hifive unleashed, which is very expensive.) > > The only major problem of K210 is that its IO capabilities are fairly > limited and you need external Ethernet/Wifi solutions on SPI bus, > which is likely slow. > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1739 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Plan9 on radpberry pi zero ? 2019-08-16 13:25 ` Олег Бахарев 2019-08-16 13:54 ` [9fans] RISC-V (was: Plan9 on radpberry pi zero ?) Richard Miller @ 2019-08-19 14:42 ` Ethan Gardener 2019-08-19 15:29 ` Олег Бахарев 1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Ethan Gardener @ 2019-08-19 14:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, at 2:26 PM, Олег Бахарев wrote: > > Do you mean something like BlackIce II (I'm under RV32I)? There is still one interesting board (inexpensive) on the RISC V 64 bit (RV64IMAG) - if you want I will show where to get Yes please ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Plan9 on radpberry pi zero ? 2019-08-19 14:42 ` [9fans] Plan9 on radpberry pi zero ? Ethan Gardener @ 2019-08-19 15:29 ` Олег Бахарев 2019-08-20 13:51 ` raingloom 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Олег Бахарев @ 2019-08-19 15:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 839 bytes --] Board with K210 from Kendryte: https://ru-m.banggood.com/Sipeed-Maix-BIT-RISC-V-Dual-Core-64bit-CPU-With-FPU-AI-Module-Core-Board-Development-Board-Mini-PC-Learning-Board-p-1453873.html?gmcCountry=RU¤cy=RUB&cur_warehouse=CN&createTmp=1&ID=326941415&utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=cpc_bgcs&utm_content=lijing&utm_campaign=pla-rug-rm-cart-0802-mb&ad_id=375319756499&gclid=CjwKCAjwkenqBRBgEiwA-bZVtrVYU5BLvdqcXpQs-nT-R8ngDuLXHRGUHfdzpt4ui8G0W8UWQHxc2BoCzm0QAvD_BwE пн, 19 авг. 2019 г., 17:45 Ethan Gardener <eekee57@fastmail.fm>: > On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, at 2:26 PM, Олег Бахарев wrote: > > > > Do you mean something like BlackIce II (I'm under RV32I)? There is still > one interesting board (inexpensive) on the RISC V 64 bit (RV64IMAG) - if > you want I will show where to get > > Yes please > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1649 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Plan9 on radpberry pi zero ? 2019-08-19 15:29 ` Олег Бахарев @ 2019-08-20 13:51 ` raingloom 2019-08-21 4:38 ` Lucio De Re 2019-08-23 18:50 ` Ethan Gardener 0 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: raingloom @ 2019-08-20 13:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1019 bytes --] > Board with K210 from Kendryte: https://ru-m.banggood.com/Sipeed-Maix-BIT-RISC-V-Dual-Core-64bit-CPU-With-FPU-AI-Module-Core-Board-Development-Board-Mini-PC-Learning-Board-p-1453873.html?gmcCountry=RU¤cy=RUB&cur_warehouse=CN&createTmp=1&ID=326941415&utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=cpc_bgcs&utm_content=lijing&utm_campaign=pla-rug-rm-cart-0802-mb&ad_id=375319756499&gclid=CjwKCAjwkenqBRBgEiwA-bZVtrVYU5BLvdqcXpQs-nT-R8ngDuLXHRGUHfdzpt4ui8G0W8UWQHxc2BoCzm0QAvD_BwE > > пн, 19 авг. 2019 г., 17:45 Ethan Gardener <eekee57@fastmail.fm>: > >> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, at 2:26 PM, Олег Бахарев wrote: >>> >>> Do you mean something like BlackIce II (I'm under RV32I)? There is still one interesting board (inexpensive) on the RISC V 64 bit (RV64IMAG) - if you want I will show where to get >> >> Yes please Cleaned up link with trackers removed: https://www.banggood.com/Sipeed-Maix-BIT-RISC-V-Dual-Core-64bit-CPU-With-FPU-AI-Module-Core-Board-Development-Board-Mini-PC-Learning-Board-p-1453873.html [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2183 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Plan9 on radpberry pi zero ? 2019-08-20 13:51 ` raingloom @ 2019-08-21 4:38 ` Lucio De Re 2019-08-23 18:50 ` Ethan Gardener 1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Lucio De Re @ 2019-08-21 4:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: raingloom, Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On 8/20/19, raingloom <raingloom@protonmail.com> wrote: >> Board with K210 from Kendryte: For the curious (and I'm going to bookmark this so I can show my colleagues what happens when too much data is shipped to a browser, mindlessly), there are what look like full-sized images reduced to thumbnails that were still downloading when I started this message, on that page. Thank you for the pointer, in any case. Lucio. PS: Those images would probably be still loading... ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Plan9 on radpberry pi zero ? 2019-08-20 13:51 ` raingloom 2019-08-21 4:38 ` Lucio De Re @ 2019-08-23 18:50 ` Ethan Gardener 2019-08-24 12:41 ` Chris McGee 1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Ethan Gardener @ 2019-08-23 18:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > Cleaned up link with trackers removed: > https://www.banggood.com/Sipeed-Maix-BIT-RISC-V-Dual-Core-64bit-CPU-With-FPU-AI-Module-Core-Board-Development-Board-Mini-PC-Learning-Board-p-1453873.html Thanks guys. Replacing 'www' with my country code shows me it's pretty cheap. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Plan9 on radpberry pi zero ? 2019-08-23 18:50 ` Ethan Gardener @ 2019-08-24 12:41 ` Chris McGee 0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Chris McGee @ 2019-08-24 12:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 189 bytes --] Has anyone tried putting Plan 9 on one of these MIPS based SoC’s? https://vocore.io/v2u.html The hardware is supposedly open, which might make it easier to work on drivers. Chris [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 494 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
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