From: "Peter A. Cejchan" <tyapca7@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] gcc not an option for Plan9
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 12:40:02 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAM6ozu4Frok+mpknBpZSyuanDmAcc9LiJAMTQFNh-v6j7i+waA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <19750d1b50c54941f031f57dc4be456e@proxima.alt.za>
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@Lucio: I still hope that some clone of plan9/nix/nxm will merge with Go
... just my dream, and I am just an embryo of a programmer
(as multiply stated here and elsewhere) so take it easy.... however, I'm
moving all my old stuff (and creating new one) to Go
[unfortunately, I am afraid I will never see the 9GoNix OS ;-) brought into
life]
Cheers,
peter.
On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 11:24 AM, <lucio@proxima.alt.za> wrote:
> > Except that C is a great language because it is both high
> > level enough and low level (near machine) that a compiler written in C
> > without optimizations and pure integer is "easy" (less expensive) to
> > write from scratch. Here, the dependencies increase.
>
> I wouldn't cry too many tears over GCC. Having investigated Hogan's
> port of GCC (3.0) to Plan 9, my impression is that GCC would never
> really fit in with the Plan 9 paradigm, it is way too expensive and
> unrewarding to bend it into shape, C++ notwithstanding.
>
> Hence Go, together with the upgraded (if you want to call them that)
> Plan 9 development tools. I'm still of the opinion that a convergence
> of the Plan 9 tools and the Go development can become the Esperanto of
> information technology, given that ease of portability to foreign
> architectures is a founding principle. Only time will tell, sadly I
> don't see any organisation or authoritative person recommending 8c et
> al for development, where I expect that would be a step forward.
>
> The obsession with optimisation, in part, is to be blamed, too. But
> not alone.
>
> Just as a side note, I was hoping to port Plan 9 to the Olimex
> LinuXino, one of many project that may or may not see the light of
> day. It comes with some or other variety of Linux, but has too little
> memory (64MiB) to be more than an embedded prototyping system and the
> default Linux release comes without the GCC development system. It
> struck me that the Go system could be cross-compiled for Linux/Arm on
> my Plan 9 network and used on the LinuXino. In fact, I have
> implemented some small applications in this way although I have had no
> occasion to do more than that. If I could figure a way to compile the
> Go distribution with its own tools, I may be able to prove that Go is
> a viable release development system without GCC backing it, something
> we have shown to a smaller audience with the Plan9/386 distribution.
>
> ++L
>
>
>
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2013-03-23 9:45 tlaronde
2013-03-23 9:53 ` Richard Miller
2013-03-23 9:56 ` Steve Simon
2013-03-23 21:34 ` tlaronde
2013-03-23 10:05 ` tlaronde
2013-03-23 10:24 ` lucio
2013-03-23 11:40 ` Peter A. Cejchan [this message]
2013-03-23 12:25 ` lucio
2013-03-23 16:06 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2013-03-23 16:09 ` erik quanstrom
2013-03-23 16:19 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2013-03-23 16:23 ` erik quanstrom
2013-03-23 16:39 ` Gorka Guardiola
2013-03-23 17:15 ` Rob Pike
2013-03-23 17:20 ` erik quanstrom
2013-03-23 19:29 ` Rob Pike
2013-03-23 19:31 ` erik quanstrom
2013-03-23 19:34 ` Rob Pike
2013-03-23 19:33 ` Rob Pike
2013-03-23 19:39 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2013-03-23 19:58 ` andrey mirtchovski
2013-03-23 20:11 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2013-03-24 0:44 ` Kurt H Maier
2013-03-23 17:23 ` hiro
2013-03-23 17:30 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2013-03-23 17:44 ` hiro
2013-03-23 17:52 ` Nemo
2013-03-23 17:31 ` hiro
2013-03-23 17:33 ` hiro
2013-03-23 17:37 ` tlaronde
2013-03-23 17:55 ` erik quanstrom
2013-03-23 19:13 ` andrey mirtchovski
2013-03-23 19:23 ` ron minnich
2013-03-23 19:56 ` Gorka Guardiola
2013-03-23 23:45 ` andrey mirtchovski
2013-03-23 23:58 ` Bruce Ellis
2013-03-24 8:49 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2013-03-24 9:02 ` Steve Simon
2013-03-24 9:22 ` lucio
2013-03-30 19:49 ` ron minnich
2013-03-25 14:45 ` Nicolas Bercher
2013-03-23 19:17 ` Rob Pike
2013-03-23 19:19 ` Rob Pike
2013-03-23 19:32 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2013-03-23 19:37 ` Rob Pike
2013-03-23 19:43 ` Rob Pike
2013-03-24 0:46 ` Kurt H Maier
2013-03-23 19:45 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2013-03-25 9:43 ` [9fans] mk and transitive dependencies (was: gcc not an option for Plan9) dexen deVries
2013-03-25 10:26 ` Gorka Guardiola
2013-03-25 10:33 ` hiro
2013-03-25 10:40 ` Bence Fábián
2013-03-25 10:42 ` Gorka Guardiola
2013-03-25 11:00 ` dexen deVries
2013-03-25 10:40 ` Gorka Guardiola
2013-03-25 10:43 ` dexen deVries
2013-03-25 11:02 ` [9fans] mk and transitive dependencies (was: gcc not an option lucio
2013-03-25 11:09 ` [9fans] mk and transitive dependencies (was: gcc not an option for Plan9) Bence Fábián
2013-03-25 13:30 ` erik quanstrom
2013-03-25 11:16 ` tlaronde
2013-03-25 11:55 ` Charles Forsyth
2013-03-25 12:10 ` tlaronde
2013-03-25 20:37 ` Steve Simon
2013-03-25 13:35 ` erik quanstrom
2013-03-25 14:38 ` andrey mirtchovski
2013-03-25 17:30 ` Ori Bernstein
2013-03-23 23:03 ` [9fans] gcc not an option for Plan9 David Leimbach
2013-03-23 19:29 ` hiro
2013-03-23 17:47 ` Gorka Guardiola
2013-03-24 0:41 ` Kurt H Maier
2013-03-24 9:48 ` tlaronde
2013-03-24 11:56 ` Dustin Fechner
2013-03-24 12:03 ` tlaronde
2013-03-23 16:20 ` Gorka Guardiola
2013-03-23 16:37 ` lucio
2013-03-25 5:48 ` Peter A. Cejchan
2013-03-25 6:27 ` lucio
2013-03-25 16:45 ` Kurt H Maier
2013-03-25 19:04 ` lucio
2013-03-25 19:19 ` sl
2013-03-25 19:31 ` aram
2013-03-25 19:35 ` sl
2013-03-26 22:01 ` Bence Fábián
2013-03-26 22:05 ` sl
2013-03-26 22:17 ` Bence Fábián
2013-03-25 20:18 ` Kurt H Maier
2013-03-26 4:45 ` lucio
2013-03-26 6:03 ` Kurt H Maier
2013-03-26 9:44 ` iainws
2013-03-26 12:07 ` sl
2013-03-26 12:11 ` Rubén Berenguel
2013-03-26 12:16 ` dexen deVries
2013-03-26 12:16 ` hiro
2013-03-26 12:20 ` Rubén Berenguel
2013-03-26 12:57 ` Charles Forsyth
2013-03-26 13:04 ` Rubén Berenguel
2013-03-26 8:28 ` dexen deVries
2013-03-25 19:38 ` erik quanstrom
2013-03-25 19:46 ` lucio
2013-03-25 19:51 ` andrey mirtchovski
2013-03-25 19:58 ` tlaronde
2013-03-25 19:51 ` sl
2013-03-25 20:13 ` Kurt H Maier
2013-03-26 9:43 ` Balwinder S Dheeman
2013-03-23 17:08 ` hiro
2013-03-25 5:53 ` Peter A. Cejchan
2013-03-23 9:54 ` Peter A. Cejchan
2013-03-23 10:10 ` tlaronde
2013-03-23 10:15 ` Peter A. Cejchan
2013-03-23 12:17 ` Bakul Shah
2013-03-23 12:48 ` lucio
2013-03-25 1:00 Winston Kodogo
2013-03-25 1:20 ` Dan Cross
2013-03-25 1:24 ` andrey mirtchovski
2013-03-25 1:27 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2013-03-25 1:36 ` Kurt H Maier
2013-03-25 1:42 ` Dan Cross
2013-03-25 1:45 ` Jacob Todd
2013-03-25 1:47 ` andrey mirtchovski
2013-03-25 1:54 ` Kurt H Maier
2013-03-25 2:02 ` Dan Cross
2013-03-25 2:08 ` Kurt H Maier
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