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From: Clout Tolstoy <tolstoyclout@gmail.com>
To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: Time for 9? :-)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2026 07:10:25 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMP3H-1CLTmx2FojPVBYQ0rDeuPMiarzQRzEbFa=kqkGVFjL3Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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What's your host system/hypervisor?

 I would recommend using something like virt-manager on Linux, but I've
only used that with the KVM Linux hypervisor.  I would also recommend using
the basic CLI syntax first so all the GUI options make more sense.

On Wed, Jan 28, 2026, 10:44 PM Michael Jensen <mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com>
wrote:

> ..4 months and counting.. ..gotta be some kind of record..
>
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2026 at 8:19 PM Michael Jensen <mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Still trying to install it.  I've been exploring hardware solutions, have
>> now moved on to qemu.
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 9:08 AM Michael Jensen <
>> mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The Computer on which the 3-button mouse doesn't work is the same one I
>>> already submitted data for.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 9:07 AM Michael Jensen <
>>> mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So, I have got to the point where, in principle, I am willing to learn
>>>> how to use plan9/9front using a live session.  I have tried installing it
>>>> to a usb-key and got an error that is probably solvable.  I also have
>>>> another "ssd" coming in in a week or so that might work.  The main issue is
>>>> that the 3-button mouse I got does not work.  I've known this for a while,
>>>> at first it didn't bug me overly.  Now, facing the plunge, I'm not so sure
>>>> I want to deal with the irritation of hardware that isn't designed for the
>>>> os in question.  So.. are adopters of this system really supposed to be up
>>>> to the level of solving such problems on their own?  I'm willing, and
>>>> indeed enthusiastic, about writing most of my own code, using public code
>>>> as inspiration, but solving mouse-driver issues?  I'm already taking
>>>> criticism for pushing as far as openbsd.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 30, 2025 at 2:13 PM Michael Jensen <
>>>> mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have now tried installing 9legacy.  To see if it would work any
>>>>> better.  On the 3 computers I have that are currently working.  You might
>>>>> be happy to know that it worked less well.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Dec 7, 2025 at 7:04 PM Michael Jensen <
>>>>> mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> For the record, I have not yet succeeded, but am still trying, in a
>>>>>> manner of speaking.  Investigating running it in qemu, or using plan9port.
>>>>>> A tech friend of mine will probably help eventually, if he doesn't succeed,
>>>>>> he will probably generate info that might help with the diagnosis.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Meanwhile, I am looking into framework laptops, and have now found
>>>>>> something called the reform.  Somebody claims that is what most 9front
>>>>>> people use?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://community.frame.work/t/plan9-9front-on-framework/13991/2
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Is there one, framework or reform that is more recommended?
>>>>>> Strongly?  Weekly?  For 9front? 9legacy?  I ask, not knowing how often the
>>>>>> FQA is updated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 30, 2025 at 8:35 PM Michael Jensen <
>>>>>> mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ..what?  I do not understand.  In all the tests I just did, for each
>>>>>>> computer (I did not test the T420), I did at least one test where the
>>>>>>> ordinary Sata drive was not there, so the only "memory" that could be seen
>>>>>>> was either the mSata, the boot medium, or ram.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok, this is very strange.. I am trying again on the T430, which
>>>>>>> happens to have both the mSata and it's ordinary Sata, (coincidence), both
>>>>>>> register, but it looks like I now have -two- /data options.  /dev/sdE0/data
>>>>>>> and /dev/sdE2/data.  As for  your suggestion, I have tried accepting the
>>>>>>> default, which is [], or nothing, and.. same thing.  Infinite loop.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ..repeating  the test, with the Sata out, I get the same thing,
>>>>>>> (infinite loop), except that there is now only one /dev/sdE1/data, with a
>>>>>>> 1, not 2 or 0.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 30, 2025 at 6:24 PM <ori@eigenstate.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Quoth Michael Jensen <mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>> > > Well, I've now done about all I can at this end.  As I suddenly
>>>>>>>> suspected
>>>>>>>> > > right before the test, connecting an msata drive to the
>>>>>>>> computer via an
>>>>>>>> > > msata-sata adaptor didn't work.  It still looks like a sata.  I
>>>>>>>> assume.
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > I how have the msata in the T430, and it is at least
>>>>>>>> recognized.  Which
>>>>>>>> > > shows that at least -something- is working.  However, selecting
>>>>>>>> the boot
>>>>>>>> > > drive still fails, same as before, asking again and again, an
>>>>>>>> infinite
>>>>>>>> > > loop.  In theory I could do the same test with the T420, but..
>>>>>>>> why would
>>>>>>>> > > the results be different?
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > I can still try the test with this computer, the 7440.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hve you tried *not* selecting the first drive?
>>>>>>>>
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  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-29 17:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2025-11-17  6:07 ` [9fans] Re: Time for 9? :-) ori
2025-11-17 14:20   ` Michael Jensen
2025-11-18 15:06     ` ron minnich
2025-11-18 16:17       ` Ori Bernstein
2025-11-18 16:19       ` Skip Tavakkolian
2025-11-19 13:37         ` Ron Minnich
2025-11-18 16:18     ` Ori Bernstein
2025-11-18 16:35       ` Michael Jensen
2025-11-27  2:19         ` Michael Jensen
2025-11-27 15:48           ` ron minnich
2025-11-28 18:26           ` Michael Jensen
2025-11-28 18:29             ` Michael Jensen
2025-11-30 22:29               ` Michael Jensen
2025-11-30 23:04                 ` Michael Jensen
2025-11-30 23:24                   ` ori
2025-12-01  1:35                     ` Michael Jensen
2025-12-02 21:47                       ` ron minnich
     [not found]                       ` <CAEbY5PFz4RxDZ7pJM2sO15kqKicQ+AQxnKO+KVzSxQy9ZTgDhw@mail.gmail.com>
2025-12-30 19:13                         ` Michael Jensen
2025-12-30 23:59                           ` Clout Tolstoy
2025-12-31 14:07                           ` Michael Jensen
2025-12-31 14:08                             ` Michael Jensen
2025-12-31 17:10                               ` Michael Grunditz
2025-12-31 17:16                               ` ron minnich
2025-12-31 17:23                                 ` ron minnich
2026-01-29  1:19                               ` Michael Jensen
2026-01-29  1:21                                 ` Michael Jensen
2026-01-29 15:10                                   ` Clout Tolstoy [this message]
2026-01-29 16:01                                   ` ron minnich
2026-02-04 10:09                                   ` Adrian
2026-02-05  1:40                                     ` Frank D. Engel, Jr.
2026-02-05  2:57                                       ` hahahahacker2009
2026-02-05 19:17                                         ` Thaddeus Woskowiak
     [not found] <CAEbY5PGvQTmXQuhteP=s_Myq+pa_cPNZQDNVjD2JE7VhmkQaNA@mail.gmail.com>
2025-11-11 21:09 ` ori
     [not found]   ` <CAEbY5PG7faWUcEm9nZ3sAzepg55Vmr2u=9CA1Mr8i9TzrrSDYw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]     ` <CAEbY5PHegHD1okHXsUpYw_q8mw6WKOQ=E-GyAwHgN6BPYf-tHg@mail.gmail.com>
2025-11-13  4:40       ` Michael Jensen
2025-11-13  5:02         ` ori
2025-11-13 23:57           ` Michael Jensen
2025-11-11  8:23 Jonas Amoson
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2025-09-21 22:03 [9fans] " Michael Jensen
2025-11-10  2:39 ` [9fans] " Michael Jensen
2025-11-10  4:35   ` Ori Bernstein
2025-11-10  5:34     ` Michael Jensen
     [not found]     ` <CAEbY5PE-2B9q_0kVEcPkTjz87SE1p76H-ro6kW4ABraRNg6kqg@mail.gmail.com>
2025-11-10 20:41       ` Michael Jensen
     [not found]         ` <CAEbY5PHkQmUsBUqX12zzYBuMSZ+tdG=617uy3-pmSVWUwrPM2g@mail.gmail.com>
2025-11-11  4:17           ` Michael Jensen
2025-11-11  5:02             ` ori
2025-11-11 12:58             ` Frank D. Engel, Jr.
2025-11-10 12:54   ` Andreas.Elding via 9fans

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