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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi everyone. let me say up front that i do not think plan 9 has= to be practical to be worth liking or using. please do not take this email= as provocative or interrogatory, we are all on the *9fans* mailing list fo= r a reason.

a month or so ag= o, i tried ‘getting into’ plan 9, and i have been unsuccessful = due to the difficulty of making a grid when i can’t port forward or b= asic protocols like irc or torrent on my university network. that being sai= d, i have not given up, and my plan 9 plans are lying dormant until i can a= ttend the next sdf plan 9 bootcamp (when is that btw?) which im betting on = improving my proficiency with the OS so i can solve these problems. 

but today i was thinkin= g about my grid, what my cpu server and file server would be, and i realize= d that these servers would likely be not much more powerful than the &ldquo= ;terminal” machine i would be accessing them from in the first place.= now this doesn’t make plan 9 useless— it’s still so inte= resting to me— but i want to be able to find some advantage to having= a grid.

so i ask: wha= t are ways i could make a grid really shine? through design and/or usage, t= hings that make a grid nice to have. i still enjoy 9front on a single machi= ne, and plan9port is now a must-have on my unix machines. i know plan 9 wan= ts a network, but why would a user want plan 9 to have a network? if that m= akes any sense :^)

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