From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 15:24:31 -0800 From: Lyndon Nerenberg To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (BSF 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: [9fans] R.I.P cs.bell-labs.com Topicbox-Message-UUID: c8e6cd0a-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Thu, 4 Jan 2018, Joseph Stewart wrote: > Someone (not me) should make a 9p to S3 service and put all the goodies > there. Why not just set up a public Plan9 fileserver? From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: Tyga Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 15:14:08 +1100 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1141d6781c5f4c0561ffae69" Subject: Re: [9fans] R.I.P cs.bell-labs.com Topicbox-Message-UUID: c8ee96de-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --001a1141d6781c5f4c0561ffae69 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Would GitHub or similar be easier to manage and track changes, contributions, etc? I would prefer to have separate directories for common, 9front specific, native specific. At the moment stuff is a bit all over the place. On 5 January 2018 at 10:24, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > On Thu, 4 Jan 2018, Joseph Stewart wrote: > > Someone (not me) should make a 9p to S3 service and put all the goodies >> there. >> > > Why not just set up a public Plan9 fileserver? > > --001a1141d6781c5f4c0561ffae69 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Would GitHub or similar be easier to manage and track chan= ges, contributions, etc?

I would prefer to have separate= directories for common, 9front specific, native specific.=C2=A0 At the mom= ent stuff is a bit all over the place.

On 5 January 2018 at 10:24, Lyndon Nerenbe= rg <lyndon@orthanc.ca> wrote:
On Thu, 4 Jan 2018, Joseph Stewart wrote:

Someone (not me) should make a 9p to S3 service and put all the goodies
there.

Why not just set up a public Plan9 fileserver?


--001a1141d6781c5f4c0561ffae69-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: David du Colombier <0intro@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 08:42:23 +0100 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [9fans] R.I.P cs.bell-labs.com Topicbox-Message-UUID: c8f237c6-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Take a look to https://9p.io/ -- David du Colombier From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: Rob Pike Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 21:08:58 +1100 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a114454d6420893056204a467" Subject: Re: [9fans] R.I.P cs.bell-labs.com Topicbox-Message-UUID: c8f664d6-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --001a114454d6420893056204a467 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Everyone is naming sites to check out, but which one has the right contents, is being maintained, and will be stable? -rob On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 6:42 PM, David du Colombier <0intro@gmail.com> wrote: > Take a look to https://9p.io/ > > -- > David du Colombier > > --001a114454d6420893056204a467 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Everyone is naming sites to check out, but which one has t= he right contents, is being maintained, and will be stable?

<= div>-rob


On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 6:42 PM, David du Colombier <0intr= o@gmail.com> wrote:
Take a = look to htt= ps://9p.io/

--
David du Colombier


--001a114454d6420893056204a467-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: David du Colombier <0intro@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 11:38:08 +0100 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [9fans] R.I.P cs.bell-labs.com Topicbox-Message-UUID: c8fa0aaa-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > Everyone is naming sites to check out, but which one has the right contents, > is being maintained, and will be stable? I've been running 9p.io since February 2014. It's a complete and up-to-date copy of plan9.bell-labs.com. It includes the following services: - HTTP and HTTPS (full content, including personal pages) - FTP (full content) - 9P (/n/sources, but no /n/sourcesdump currently) - wikifs (served from /n/sources/wiki) - manual pages and documentation It has been running with no downtime for four years now. -- David du Colombier From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: David du Colombier <0intro@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 11:57:43 +0100 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [9fans] R.I.P cs.bell-labs.com Topicbox-Message-UUID: c8fe2252-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On the other hand, plan9.io is run by Sevki Hasirci. It has been set up in January 2016, using 9p.io as a basis, to serve as a fallback mirror. However, plan9.io is not as complete as 9p.io and doesn't include services such as FTP, 9P or wikifs. I don't know about the other mirrors. -- David du Colombier From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: To: 9fans@9fans.net From: Richard Miller <9fans@hamnavoe.com> Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 11:01:52 +0000 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] R.I.P cs.bell-labs.com Topicbox-Message-UUID: c9022564-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > I've been running 9p.io since February 2014. > > It's a complete and up-to-date copy of plan9.bell-labs.com. Not all up to date, I think. Patch directory appears to be a snapshot from March 2016, and contrib/miller/9/bcm has nothing newer than July 2015. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: David du Colombier <0intro@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 12:09:29 +0100 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [9fans] R.I.P cs.bell-labs.com Topicbox-Message-UUID: c90d77ca-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > Not all up to date, I think. Patch directory appears to be > a snapshot from March 2016, and contrib/miller/9/bcm has > nothing newer than July 2015. Yes, /n/sources has been still evolving on plan9.bell-labs.com, so there are some updates to catch up. I'll update /n/sources from my latest snapshot. -- David du Colombier From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: David du Colombier <0intro@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 13:13:36 +0100 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [9fans] R.I.P cs.bell-labs.com Topicbox-Message-UUID: c912491c-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 I've just updated /n/sources on 9p.io with a snapshot from 2017-12-15. Thanks for the reminding! -- David du Colombier From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: Steven Stallion Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 08:53:39 -0600 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [9fans] R.I.P cs.bell-labs.com Topicbox-Message-UUID: c91617a4-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 How about contrib? It would be nice to have something to fall back on when the plug is finally pulled. On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 6:13 AM, David du Colombier <0intro@gmail.com> wrote: > I've just updated /n/sources on 9p.io with a snapshot from 2017-12-15. > > Thanks for the reminding! > > -- > David du Colombier > From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 07:39:37 -0800 From: Kurt H Maier To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Message-ID: <20180105153937.GA40028@wopr> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [9fans] R.I.P cs.bell-labs.com Topicbox-Message-UUID: c91d27b0-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Fri, Jan 05, 2018 at 09:08:58PM +1100, Rob Pike wrote: > Everyone is naming sites to check out, but which one has the right > contents, is being maintained, and will be stable? That's never existed to begin with. Nothing's changed to suddenly make it likely. khm From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 08:22:17 -0800 From: Lyndon Nerenberg To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (BSF 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [9fans] R.I.P cs.bell-labs.com Topicbox-Message-UUID: c933d780-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > Everyone is naming sites to check out, but which one has the right > contents, is being maintained, and will be stable? Didn't Charles Forsyth have a github or similar such repository with a copy of the Labs sources? That was even seeing sporadic updates? I'm sure I browsed it last fall, but I can't find it now. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: David du Colombier <0intro@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 17:28:29 +0100 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [9fans] R.I.P cs.bell-labs.com Topicbox-Message-UUID: c93a3396-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > Didn't Charles Forsyth have a github or similar such repository with a copy > of the Labs sources? That was even seeing sporadic updates? I'm sure I > browsed it last fall, but I can't find it now. Few years ago, I've made a GitHub repository with full /n/sources/plan9 history, if that's what you're looking for: https://github.com/0intro/plan9 -- David du Colombier From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: David du Colombier <0intro@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 17:35:11 +0100 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [9fans] R.I.P cs.bell-labs.com Topicbox-Message-UUID: c93fed04-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > How about contrib? It would be nice to have something to fall back on > when the plug is finally pulled. We could use the /n/sources/contrib directory from 9p.io as the future main contrib repository, but we never know when plan9.bell-labs.com will be back. At some point in the past, plan9.bell-labs.com was down for many weeks, so some people started to submit patches to 9p.io, but it became an issue once plan9.bell-labs.com was back because we had to synchronize the repositories. That's why I would consider 9p.io to be a read-only mirror of plan9.bell-labs.com for now. -- David du Colombier From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: Charles Forsyth Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 22:44:14 +0000 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113dbba224cde105620f3050" Subject: Re: [9fans] R.I.P cs.bell-labs.com Topicbox-Message-UUID: c9470c38-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --001a113dbba224cde105620f3050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Yes, when sources was doomed, I enthusiastically set it up, although I think it was bitbucket not github, but I was then embarrassed to be reminded that David du Colombier had been maintaining something similar for quite some time, so I stopped. On 5 January 2018 at 16:28, David du Colombier <0intro@gmail.com> wrote: > > Didn't Charles Forsyth have a github or similar such repository with a > copy > > of the Labs sources? That was even seeing sporadic updates? I'm sure I > > browsed it last fall, but I can't find it now. > > Few years ago, I've made a GitHub repository with full /n/sources/plan9 > history, if that's what you're looking for: > > https://github.com/0intro/plan9 > > -- > David du Colombier > > --001a113dbba224cde105620f3050 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes, when sources was doomed, I enthusiastically set it up= , although I think it was bitbucket not github, but I was then embarrassed = to be reminded that David du Colombier had been maintaining something simil= ar for quite some time, so I stopped.

<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 5 January 2018 at 16:28, David du Colombier <0= intro@gmail.com> wrote:
> Didn't Charles Forsyth have a github or similar such= repository with a copy
> of the Labs sources?=C2=A0 That was even seeing sporadic updates?=C2= =A0 I'm sure I
> browsed it last fall, but I can't find it now.

Few years ago, I've made a GitHub repository with full /n/source= s/plan9
history, if that's what you're looking for:

https://github.com/0intro/plan9

--
David du Colombier


--001a113dbba224cde105620f3050-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: Charles Forsyth Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 22:45:58 +0000 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113d057e59d0a505620f36f5" Subject: Re: [9fans] R.I.P cs.bell-labs.com Topicbox-Message-UUID: c952eefe-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --001a113d057e59d0a505620f36f5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" "we never know when plan9.bell-labs.com will be back." Yes, yes we do. Not. On 5 January 2018 at 16:35, David du Colombier <0intro@gmail.com> wrote: > > How about contrib? It would be nice to have something to fall back on > > when the plug is finally pulled. > > We could use the /n/sources/contrib directory from 9p.io as the future > main contrib repository, but we never know when plan9.bell-labs.com > will be back. > > At some point in the past, plan9.bell-labs.com was down for many weeks, > so some people started to submit patches to 9p.io, but it became an issue > once plan9.bell-labs.com was back because we had to synchronize > the repositories. > > That's why I would consider 9p.io to be a read-only mirror of > plan9.bell-labs.com for now. > > -- > David du Colombier > > --001a113d057e59d0a505620f36f5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
"we= never know when=C2=A0plan9.bell-labs.c= om=C2=A0will be back.= "

Yes, yes we do. Not.

On 5 January 2= 018 at 16:35, David du Colombier <0intro@gmail.com> wrote:
> How about contrib? It= would be nice to have something to fall back on
> when the plug is finally pulled.

We could use the /n/sources/contrib directory from 9p.io as the future
main contrib repository, but we never know when plan9.bell-labs.com will be back.

At some point in the past, plan9.bell-labs.com was down for many weeks= ,
so some people started to submit patches to 9p.io, but it became an issue
once plan9.bell-labs.com was back because we had to synchronize
the repositories.

That's why I would consider 9p.io to be a read-only mirror of
plan9.bell-labs.com for now.

--
David du Colombier


--001a113d057e59d0a505620f36f5-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 15:57:50 -0800 From: Lyndon Nerenberg To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (BSF 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [9fans] R.I.P cs.bell-labs.com Topicbox-Message-UUID: c95def02-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > Yes, when sources was doomed, I enthusiastically set it up, although I > think it was bitbucket not github, And the reason I liked the bitbucket repo is because it's accessible using hg, for which we have a Plan9 port that does get some TLC thanks to the 9front folks. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: Steven Stallion Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 19:32:12 -0600 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [9fans] R.I.P cs.bell-labs.com Topicbox-Message-UUID: c96408ce-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Ouch. I'd hate to think the work I did on that is somehow associated with 9front. On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 5:57 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: >> Yes, when sources was doomed, I enthusiastically set it up, although I >> think it was bitbucket not github, > > > And the reason I liked the bitbucket repo is because it's accessible using > hg, for which we have a Plan9 port that does get some TLC thanks to the > 9front folks. > From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 17:49:18 -0800 From: Kurt H Maier To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Message-ID: <20180106014918.GA61322@wopr> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [9fans] R.I.P cs.bell-labs.com Topicbox-Message-UUID: c9722a4e-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Fri, Jan 05, 2018 at 07:32:12PM -0600, Steven Stallion wrote: > Ouch. I'd hate to think the work I did on that is somehow associated > with 9front. If you don't want people to use it, don't put it on the internet. khm From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 17:56:47 -0800 From: Lyndon Nerenberg To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (BSF 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [9fans] R.I.P cs.bell-labs.com Topicbox-Message-UUID: c978c53e-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > Ouch. I'd hate to think the work I did on that is somehow associated > with 9front. Let's leave the pettiness behind. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 18:46:32 +0100 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [9fans] R.I.P cs.bell-labs.com Topicbox-Message-UUID: cb0fcadc-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On 1/6/18, Steven Stallion wrote: > Ouch. I'd hate to think the work I did on that is somehow associated > with 9front. why?