From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <201609280905.u8S95YGp004225@freefriends.org> References: <201609280905.u8S95YGp004225@freefriends.org> From: Shane Morris Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 19:31:21 +1000 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114d948e2b2e8d053d8e0635 Subject: Re: [9fans] x86 alternative to rPi Topicbox-Message-UUID: a0f18cf4-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --001a114d948e2b2e8d053d8e0635 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 +1. Its not exactly RPi form factor, meaning I can't stuff a whole heap of the boards in something like this: http://my.bitscope.com/store/?p=view&i=item+6 But I'm sure it'd be bloody brilliant as a supervisory computer on a rover robot or something similar, likely low powered enough to not smash a lipo secondary pack thrown together from laptop cells I recover from condemned laptops at work, those USB3.0 ports mean I could cobble on some SDRs in Linux, Plan 9 is a different story, but the CPU power would be a solid punch compared to the low RAM spec RPi ARM64 gear. I think the Orange Pi is 2GB RAM, but Plan 9/ Inferno doesn't run on it, the OPi barely runs Linux, most normal stuff, like common USB->serial interfaces simply don't work. And the kernel mod instructions make no sense on the wiki. Good luck getting Plan 9 running on it! No issue, I was going to use a four place Bitscope Blade with two OPi's running Linux, an RPi2 running Plan 9 CPU, and an RPi2 running Inferno for my starter core cluster, prep to move the whole lot off grid in the coming years: http://my.bitscope.com/store/?p=view&i=item+3 As for *way later on*, something like this is quite interesting: http://www.parallac.org/ 144 CPU cores, spread over a count of 128 grid cores, 16 ARM32 cores with FPGAs, and 4 x64 cores, weighing in at 200W max. Add one of these puppies to the mix for the GigE backplane: http://routerboard.com/CCR1009-8G-1S-PC The 9 core Tilera CPU has a grid alike architecture as well, and a GNU C/ C++ toolchain. Wonder if I could ever afford to employ you on porting work Mr Stallion? =) Its ok, you asked me to name an idea of my price, I'm not upset. Soon learned what the work consists of, didn't I? If this off grid supercomputer cluster ever happens before Adepteva release the 64 core Epiphany-IV grid co-processor, I'll be well ripped off, although development on the 64 core chip stalled when they didn't reach their initial crowdfunding stretch goal. I'm not sure about their timeline, but I'll be far more grey by the release, and probably far more grumpy too...! In any case Arnold, cheers for the heads up. Now to see if the supply chain supplies to the Antipodes, and for a reasonable price, not the usual "We'll sell it to you completely gold plated in 24k pure gold, but the gold plate gets removed before it leaves the contiguous US by those thieving so-and-so's in US Customs and the USPS" crap that usually happens with this more niche gear. Gotta get a remailer box, I want a bunch of WD PiDrives too, those guys don't even know Australia is a major First World nation, let alone we actually exist on the other side of the planet... Remember guys, theres no taxes on dreams... yet... ^.^ 2016-09-28 19:05 GMT+10:00 : > FYI folks. > > http://betanews.com/2016/09/22/solidrun-x86-braswell- > microsom-linux-windows-10-raspberry-pi/ > > Arnold > > --001a114d948e2b2e8d053d8e0635 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
+1.

Its not exactly RPi form factor, meaning I can&= #39;t stuff a whole heap of the boards in something like this:

http://my.bits= cope.com/store/?p=3Dview&i=3Ditem+6

But I'm sure it'= d be bloody brilliant as a supervisory computer on a rover robot or somethi= ng similar, likely low powered enough to not smash a lipo secondary pack th= rown together from laptop cells I recover from condemned laptops at work, t= hose USB3.0 ports mean I could cobble on some SDRs in Linux, Plan 9 is a di= fferent story, but the CPU power would be a solid punch compared to the low= RAM spec RPi ARM64 gear. I think the Orange Pi is 2GB RAM, but Plan 9/ Inf= erno doesn't run on it, the OPi barely runs Linux, most normal stuff, l= ike common USB->serial interfaces simply don't work. And the kernel = mod instructions make no sense on the wiki. Good luck getting Plan 9 runnin= g on it!

No issue, I was going to use a four place Bitscope Blade wi= th two OPi's running Linux, an RPi2 running Plan 9 CPU, and an RPi2 run= ning Inferno for my starter core cluster, prep to move the whole lot off gr= id in the coming years:

http://my.bitscope.com/store/?p=3Dview&i=3Ditem= +3

As for way later on, something like this is quite inte= resting:

http://www.parallac.or= g/

144 CPU cores, spread over a count of 128 grid cores, 16 ARM3= 2 cores with FPGAs, and 4 x64 cores, weighing in at 200W max. Add one of th= ese puppies to the mix for the GigE backplane:

http://routerboard.com/CCR1009-8G-1S-PC<= br>
The 9 core Tilera CPU has a grid alike architecture as well, and a G= NU C/ C++ toolchain. Wonder if I could ever afford to employ you on porting= work Mr Stallion? =3D) Its ok, you asked me to name an idea of my price, I= 'm not upset. Soon learned what the work consists of, didn't I?
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If this off grid supercomputer cluster ever happens before Adepteva rel= ease the 64 core Epiphany-IV grid co-processor, I'll be well ripped off= , although development on the 64 core chip stalled when they didn't rea= ch their initial crowdfunding stretch goal. I'm not sure about their ti= meline, but I'll be far more grey by the release, and probably far more= grumpy too...!

In any case Arnold, cheers for the heads up. Now to= see if the supply chain supplies to the Antipodes, and for a reasonable pr= ice, not the usual "We'll sell it to you completely gold plated in= 24k pure gold, but the gold plate gets removed before it leaves the contig= uous US by those thieving so-and-so's in US Customs and the USPS" = crap that usually happens with this more niche gear. Gotta get a remailer b= ox, I want a bunch of WD PiDrives too, those guys don't even know Austr= alia is a major First World nation, let alone we actually exist on the othe= r side of the planet...

Remember guys, theres no taxes on dreams... = yet... ^.^

2016-09-28 19:05 GMT+10:00 <arnold@skeeve.com>:
FYI folks.

http://b= etanews.com/2016/09/22/solidrun-x86-braswell-microsom-linux-windo= ws-10-raspberry-pi/

Arnold


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