Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9

Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9

[sl]

> I was under the understanding Plan 9
> didn't work under VMWare...

http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/vmware/img/fusion.png

sl

Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9

[Shane Morris]

Ok, I stand corrected.

On 5/23/14, sl@9front.org <sl@9front.org> wrote:
>> I was under the understanding Plan 9
>> didn't work under VMWare...
>
> http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/vmware/img/fusion.png
>
> sl
>
>

Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9

[Shane Morris]

Just booted the VM using WLAN and my phones wireless hotspot, came up
almost instantly. Now the real work begins - configuration...

On 5/23/14, Shane Morris <edgecomberts@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok, I stand corrected.
>
> On 5/23/14, sl@9front.org <sl@9front.org> wrote:
>>> I was under the understanding Plan 9
>>> didn't work under VMWare...
>>
>> http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/vmware/img/fusion.png
>>
>> sl
>>
>>
>

Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9

[kokamoto]

> Ok, I stand corrected.

Off topic, sorry.

I saw this phrase some times here.
What it does mean?

I know it's meaning I think.
What I want to know is why they say just 'thanks'.
Is this something some culture related?

Kenji

Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9

[Joseph Thompson]

On May 22, 2014 10:18:32 PM EDT, kokamoto@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote:
>> Ok, I stand corrected.
>
>Off topic, sorry.
>
>I saw this phrase some times here.
>What it does mean?
>
>I know it's meaning I think.
>What I want to know is why they say just 'thanks'.
>Is this something some culture related?
>
>Kenji

It's an old phrase, basically shorthand for "I was wrong, you were correct, thanks for the correction."

Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9

[Shane Morris]

Hi Kenji,

As Joseph said, shorthand for "Thanks for correcting me on that, and
giving me the knowledge I needed, or that I asked for..." It is
probably a Western-ism, a cultural thing of America/ United Kingdom/
Australia, if not others. I've been using it since I could talk, and
started asking the big questions as to "Why is it so...? Is it like
this? No? I stand corrected..."

Many thanks!

On 5/23/14, Joseph Thompson <jthompson74@student.gsu.edu> wrote:
> On May 22, 2014 10:18:32 PM EDT, kokamoto@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote:
>>> Ok, I stand corrected.
>>
>>Off topic, sorry.
>>
>>I saw this phrase some times here.
>>What it does mean?
>>
>>I know it's meaning I think.
>>What I want to know is why they say just 'thanks'.
>>Is this something some culture related?
>>
>>Kenji
>
> It's an old phrase, basically shorthand for "I was wrong, you were correct,
> thanks for the correction."
>
>

[9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9

[Shane Morris]

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Hi 9fans,

I am running the latest VirtualBox on the latest Mavericks, and after an
install of 9atom, go to run the resulting image, and execution stops at the
"/bin/rc" command, just before entry into Rio.

I noticed this same problem on my Macbook Air on 10.8 - I thought I had
just botched my previous image, it appears not.

All settings should be correct to what the pertinent blogs say the settings
should be (ie, IDE hard drive, 1000MT Server network card, etc).

Any help, criticism, explanations, etc, are most welcome!

Shane.

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Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9

[Peter Hull]

Hi Shane,
I just tried an installation from scratch of 9atom - downloaded the
ISO from Quanstro.net, installed on VirtualBox 4.3.12 on Mavericks
10.9.3 accepting the defaults as far as possible. It all installed
fine and booted fine. I've not had time to setup networking etc. but
it certainly doesn't hang as you describe.
I have noticed that the 'default install' doesn't seem to work if
installing on a virtual hard disk that already has plan9 on it (in my
case installing 9atom over the labs version, it didn't seem to
actually do anything and booted back to the labs distro) . Did you
start from a fresh HD this time?

I can send you my 9atom.vbox (the XML config file) separately if you want.

Pete



On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 2:17 AM, Shane Morris <edgecomberts@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi 9fans,
>
> I am running the latest VirtualBox on the latest Mavericks, and after an
> install of 9atom, go to run the resulting image, and execution stops at the
> "/bin/rc" command, just before entry into Rio.
>
> I noticed this same problem on my Macbook Air on 10.8 - I thought I had just
> botched my previous image, it appears not.
>
> All settings should be correct to what the pertinent blogs say the settings
> should be (ie, IDE hard drive, 1000MT Server network card, etc).
>
> Any help, criticism, explanations, etc, are most welcome!
>
> Shane.
>

Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9

[Aram Hăvărneanu]

Why do people insist on VirtualBox? How many times it has to be said.
VirtualBox is utter shite. QEMU and VMware work. QEMU is especially
interesting because it can work without a broken kernel driver
(although it can use kvm, a good kernel driver on Linux).

-- 
Aram Hăvărneanu

Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9

[peterhull90]

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Aram Hăvărneanu I don’t know who you are but you seem to be in a very bad mood today.








From: Aram Hăvărneanu
Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎22‎ ‎May‎ ‎2014 ‎11‎:‎54
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs





Why do people insist on VirtualBox? How many times it has to be said.
VirtualBox is utter shite. QEMU and VMware work. QEMU is especially
interesting because it can work without a broken kernel driver
(although it can use kvm, a good kernel driver on Linux).

-- 
Aram Hăvărneanu

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Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9

[erik quanstrom]

On Thu May 22 06:55:44 EDT 2014, aram.h@mgk.ro wrote:
> Why do people insist on VirtualBox? How many times it has to be said.
> VirtualBox is utter shite. QEMU and VMware work. QEMU is especially
> interesting because it can work without a broken kernel driver
> (although it can use kvm, a good kernel driver on Linux).

because they're using osx, and don't want to shell out for vmware.

- erik

Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9

[Aram Hăvărneanu]

> because they're using osx, and don't want to shell out for vmware.

QEMU works on OS X.

-- 
Aram Hăvărneanu

Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9

[Jeff Sickel]

On May 22, 2014, at 8:05 AM, Aram Hăvărneanu <aram.h@mgk.ro> wrote:

>> because they're using osx, and don't want to shell out for vmware.
> 
> QEMU works on OS X.

If by ‘works’ you mean the an ancient version that doesn’t really run
well on OS X 10.9.x, then sure.  So far, I’ve not gotten a version of
qemu to build on OS X that would support Plan 9 or any other OS I’m
interesting in testing.

-jas

Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9

[Aram Hăvărneanu]

> If by ‘works’ you mean the an ancient version that doesn’t really run
> well on OS X 10.9.x, then sure.  So far, I’ve not gotten a version of
> qemu to build on OS X that would support Plan 9 or any other OS I’m
> interesting in testing.

I have both 1.6.1 and 2.0 on 10.9 (the latest). 1.6.1 is not ancient
and I didn't even need to compile it. Plan 9 runs just fine. 2.0 I
compiled because I needed the new arm64 support. It wasn't hard.

-- 
Aram Hăvărneanu

Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9

[Jeff Sickel]

On May 22, 2014, at 9:12 AM, Aram Hăvărneanu <aram.h@mgk.ro> wrote:

> I have both 1.6.1 and 2.0 on 10.9 (the latest). 1.6.1 is not ancient
> and I didn't even need to compile it. Plan 9 runs just fine. 2.0 I
> compiled because I needed the new arm64 support. It wasn't hard.

What’s your Mac OS X build environment?  Are you using some ports
tree to get all the dependencies required by qemu?  A stock OS X 10.9.3
with Xcode (with clang et al) won’t build qemu because, well, … it
doesn’t build.

-jas

Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9

[Rubén Berenguel]

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➜  ~  brew info qemu
qemu: stable 2.0.0, HEAD
http://www.qemu.org/
/usr/local/Cellar/qemu/1.5.1 (114 files, 90M)
  Built from source
/usr/local/Cellar/qemu/2.0.0_1 (120 files, 98M) *
  Built from source
From:
https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/commits/master/Library/Formula/qemu.rb
==> Dependencies
Build: pkg-config ✔, libtool ✔
Required: jpeg ✔, gnutls ✔, glib ✔, pixman ✔
Optional: vde ✘, sdl ✘
==> Options
--with-sdl
Build with sdl support
--with-vde
Build with vde support
--HEAD
install HEAD version


On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Jeff Sickel <jas@corpus-callosum.com>wrote:

>
> On May 22, 2014, at 9:12 AM, Aram Hăvărneanu <aram.h@mgk.ro> wrote:
>
> > I have both 1.6.1 and 2.0 on 10.9 (the latest). 1.6.1 is not ancient
> > and I didn't even need to compile it. Plan 9 runs just fine. 2.0 I
> > compiled because I needed the new arm64 support. It wasn't hard.
>
> What’s your Mac OS X build environment?  Are you using some ports
> tree to get all the dependencies required by qemu?  A stock OS X 10.9.3
> with Xcode (with clang et al) won’t build qemu because, well, … it
> doesn’t build.
>
> -jas
>
>
>

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Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9

[Jeff Sickel]

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On May 22, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Rubén Berenguel <ruben@mostlymaths.net> wrote:

> From: https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/commits/master/Library/Formula/qemu.rb

Ah, ruby, yet another technology I have zero use for on my systems.

-jas


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Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9

[Rubén Berenguel]

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It's homebrew, a package repository for OS X. OS X already comes with a
ruby interpreter anyway. And this allows anyone to compile from source qemu
2.0.0 without much fuss.


On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Jeff Sickel <jas@corpus-callosum.com>wrote:

>
> On May 22, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Rubén Berenguel <ruben@mostlymaths.net>
> wrote:
>
>  From:
> https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/commits/master/Library/Formula/qemu.rb
>
>
> Ah, ruby, yet another technology I have zero use for on my systems.
>
> -jas
>
>

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Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9

[Jeff Sickel]

On May 22, 2014, at 9:44 AM, Jeff Sickel <jas@corpus-callosum.com> wrote:

> 
> On May 22, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Rubén Berenguel <ruben@mostlymaths.net> wrote:
> 
>> From: https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/commits/master/Library/Formula/qemu.rb
> 
> Ah, ruby, yet another technology I have zero use for on my systems.

And the link returns:

	Sorry, this commit history is taking too long to generate.


-jas

Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9

[Aram Hăvărneanu]

> Ah, ruby, yet another technology I have zero use for on my systems.

That technology is already installed on your system.

-- 
Aram Hăvărneanu

Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9

[Jeff Sickel]

On May 22, 2014, at 9:49 AM, Aram Hăvărneanu <aram.h@mgk.ro> wrote:

>> Ah, ruby, yet another technology I have zero use for on my systems.
> 
> That technology is already installed on your system.

And not used.  Wasted bits on the ssd.

	http://hadihariri.com/2014/04/21/build-make-no-more/

Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9

[Shane Morris]

Aram, if you have a bunch of settings that work under VMWare Fusion
for Plan 9, then I am all ears. I was under the understanding Plan 9
didn't work under VMWare...

On 5/23/14, Jeff Sickel <jas@corpus-callosum.com> wrote:
>
> On May 22, 2014, at 9:49 AM, Aram Hăvărneanu <aram.h@mgk.ro> wrote:
>
>>> Ah, ruby, yet another technology I have zero use for on my systems.
>>
>> That technology is already installed on your system.
>
> And not used.  Wasted bits on the ssd.
>
> 	http://hadihariri.com/2014/04/21/build-make-no-more/
>
>
>
>

Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9

[erik quanstrom]

On Thu May 22 17:25:07 EDT 2014, edgecomberts@gmail.com wrote:
> Aram, if you have a bunch of settings that work under VMWare Fusion
> for Plan 9, then I am all ears. I was under the understanding Plan 9
> didn't work under VMWare...

the second thing the nix terminal ran on was vmware.  i just have not
it much.

- erik