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From: Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Upspin - a respin of 9p?
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 09:59:13 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAO41-mPXqQ2Nz3i45ddM=g3QtMi0rDh4N=h_46HJmyPktuqYxA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2A42D5A6-C7C1-4E40-A9B0-4E8F6591E079@bitblocks.com>

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https://upspin.googlesource.com/upspin/

*looks at mascot*

Eh, Glenda's cuter. This looks like a sleep-deprived crack-addicted mobster
chick.

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On Feb 23, 2017 2:30 AM, "Bakul Shah" <bakul@bitblocks.com> wrote:

> https://upspin.io/doc/overview.md
>
> Upspin provides a global name space to name all your files. Given an
> Upspin name, a file can be shared securely, copied efficiently without
> “download” and “upload”, and accessed from anywhere that has a network
> connection.
> ....
> Upspin can name information from any data service, not just traditional
> files.
> ----
> Initial impression:
>
> IMHO, its usefulness is integrating a bunch of things. A path has a global
> user id (user@foo.com) as a root, which is looked up in (what I would
> call) a root server. From it you find the directory server which stores the
> metadata for the remaining path. From this you find the data server where
> the file or data source is actually located and an ID meaningful to the
> server (like qid but can be a content sha1 sum). The directory server also
> checks if the requester is allowed access and presumably gives her a public
> key of the root user to be able to decrypt the data.
>
> Clearly, if the source is not an ordinary file, there can be no sha1 sum
> -- presumably the directory server doesn't care.
>
> The overview talks about the design being geared toward friends and family
> (ala Dropbox?) but the only thing I see that would be hard to scale is the
> fact a dir tree has an ACL. A dir server may also end up being a bottleneck.
>
> User data can be protected by the owner but the dir server needs to be
> able to read metadata such as ACL, data location etc.
>
> Not sure if the design allows for dynamic bind/mount. This would require a
> more flexible dir server structure... (I haven't read the code so this is
> pure speculation). But I'm wondering if something the CPU command can be
> implemented. May be there is a protocol to attach your own dir server.
>
> Renames are probably not handled to avoid atomicity (just speculating). Or
> may depend on a dir server.
>
> ACLs are for dir trees. From the syntax it looks like you can add more
> access in a sub tree but not remove it.
>
> I'd have preferred a capability scheme instead of ACLs -- need to think
> more about this.
>

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-02-23 15:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-23  8:27 Bakul Shah
2017-02-23  9:00 ` Charles Forsyth
2017-02-23  9:05   ` Charles Forsyth
2017-02-23  9:14   ` hiro
2017-02-23  9:53     ` hiro
2017-02-23  9:34   ` Bakul Shah
2017-02-23 12:40     ` Charles Forsyth
2017-02-23 16:52       ` Charles Forsyth
2017-02-23 17:44         ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2017-02-23 17:48           ` Charles Forsyth
2017-02-24  8:15             ` Charles Forsyth
2017-02-24 17:43             ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2017-02-24 18:00               ` Skip Tavakkolian
2017-02-23 15:59 ` Ryan Gonzalez [this message]
2017-02-23 17:18 ` Skip Tavakkolian

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