Hi all.

I'm new here and to plan 9.

I'm the kind of = person who doesn't always pick things up straight away=2C I'm a bit slow li= ke that :-) The light bulb usually goes on - eventually. Sometimes I just n= eed someone to flick the switch a few times. So if my questions come across= as a bit dumb you'll know why.

OK=2C so I'm new t= o Plan 9. I've managed to install it in virtualbox (Windows 7 host) and can= log in and use it. I've also installed plan9port onto Lubuntu=2C also runn= ing in a virtual machine.

Acme has become my main = work environment now=2C I was an emacs user. I like acme a lot and spend mo= st of my time in there (I'm writing this post in it). I use two screens=3B = one with acme (plan9port) and the other with everything else. This set up i= s working well for me and I'm happy to carry on working like this.

However=2C I would love to try working with acme in plan 9= itself. Well=2C I can use it with no problems (so far anyway)=2C but I can= 't get networking or shared folders (virtualbox shared folders) working. Th= is means=2C obviously=2C that plan 9 is isolated from the outside world so = any work I do is stuck in there. Now=2C I'm trying ot get my head around th= e whole plan 9 thing and how it works. I admit I'm struggling with it=2C bu= t don't want to give up just yet.

So for starters= =2C does anyone know how to get shared folders (virtualbox shared folders) = working in plan 9=2C I have them working OK in Lubuntu so no problem there.= ? I know you have to install the virtualbox guest additions and =3Bthi= s is easy to do=2C but...

This shows how much of a= doofus I am. I don't know how to access the CD drive in plan 9 which is wh= ere the guest additions would be installed from. How do I do this please? I= have searched=2C but have not managed to find the answer=2C or maybe I hav= e found it and didn't understand it.

I've been rea= ding the 9fan archives and realise that technically all you chaps are way a= bove me (as you can tell from my question) so please be patient with me :-)=

I also can't get networking to work which may or = may not be related to the above=2C I'm not sure. I have tried the different= suggestions I've found=2C but nothing seems to work. If I could just get s= hared folders working that would be great to start with.

Thanks=2C

Steve.

= --_514c72d1-20b2-44c4-97b4-e0f9bdeba165_-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 10:57:54 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?B?QmVuY2UgRsOhYmnDoW4=?= To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [9fans] How to access CD drive? Topicbox-Message-UUID: c659446a-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Generally for mounting different things Plan 9 uses user processes which can read the given filesystem and post a named pipe in /srv. Then they translate everything internally and speak 9P on this pipe. Then you can mount this using mount, and can give plus arguments mount /srv/file /n/mountpoint arg /n and /mnt are special because they create directories automatically. Run 9660srv then use mount on the posted file giving the path to the cd as an argument. 2014-03-09 10:28 GMT+01:00, Steve Foster : > Hi all. > I'm new here and to plan 9. > I'm the kind of person who doesn't always pick things up straight away, I'm > a bit slow like that :-) The light bulb usually goes on - eventually. > Sometimes I just need someone to flick the switch a few times. So if my > questions come across as a bit dumb you'll know why. > OK, so I'm new to Plan 9. I've managed to install it in virtualbox (Windows > 7 host) and can log in and use it. I've also installed plan9port onto > Lubuntu, also running in a virtual machine. > Acme has become my main work environment now, I was an emacs user. I like > acme a lot and spend most of my time in there (I'm writing this post in it). > I use two screens; one with acme (plan9port) and the other with everything > else. This set up is working well for me and I'm happy to carry on working > like this. > However, I would love to try working with acme in plan 9 itself. Well, I can > use it with no problems (so far anyway), but I can't get networking or > shared folders (virtualbox shared folders) working. This means, obviously, > that plan 9 is isolated from the outside world so any work I do is stuck in > there. Now, I'm trying ot get my head around the whole plan 9 thing and how > it works. I admit I'm struggling with it, but don't want to give up just > yet. > So for starters, does anyone know how to get shared folders (virtualbox > shared folders) working in plan 9, I have them working OK in Lubuntu so no > problem there.? I know you have to install the virtualbox guest additions > and this is easy to do, but... > This shows how much of a doofus I am. I don't know how to access the CD > drive in plan 9 which is where the guest additions would be installed from. > How do I do this please? I have searched, but have not managed to find the > answer, or maybe I have found it and didn't understand it. > I've been reading the 9fan archives and realise that technically all you > chaps are way above me (as you can tell from my question) so please be > patient with me :-) > I also can't get networking to work which may or may not be related to the > above, I'm not sure. I have tried the different suggestions I've found, but > nothing seems to work. If I could just get shared folders working that would > be great to start with. > Thanks,Steve. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 11:11:07 +0100 Message-ID: From: Mark van Atten To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [9fans] How to access CD drive? Topicbox-Message-UUID: c664d866-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 To obtain shared folders, you may also decide to run, either on Windows or Lubuntu, a program named drawterm: http://plan9.bell-labs.com/magic/man2html/8/drawterm http://www.plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/drawterm/index.html http://swtch.com/drawterm/ It connects your host to the virtual Plan 9 machine, and draws a Plan 9 terminal on the host. In that terminal you have access to the host's file system again in /mnt/term Mark. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 11:43:54 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?B?QmVuY2UgRsOhYmnDoW4=?= To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [9fans] How to access CD drive? Topicbox-Message-UUID: c66c9542-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Oh and use the 'mt server' nic in virtualbox, and you have to run a cpu server and set up auth to use drawterm. It is covered on the wiki i belive 2014-03-09 11:11 GMT+01:00, Mark van Atten : > To obtain shared folders, you may also decide to run, either on > Windows or Lubuntu, a program named drawterm: > > http://plan9.bell-labs.com/magic/man2html/8/drawterm > http://www.plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/drawterm/index.html > http://swtch.com/drawterm/ > > It connects your host to the virtual Plan 9 machine, and draws a Plan > 9 terminal on the host. In that terminal you have access to the host's > file system again in /mnt/term > > Mark. > > From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_2d4f610c-ab39-44a5-93b1-d4b805553dfe_" From: Steve Foster To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 13:40:07 +0000 In-Reply-To: References: , , , MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [9fans] How to access CD drive? Topicbox-Message-UUID: c6773682-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --_2d4f610c-ab39-44a5-93b1-d4b805553dfe_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nah=2C still not getting it. Thanks for your replies=2C I do appreciate it= =2C but I think I'll just stick to plan9port and abandon the plan 9 thing. Cheers=2CSteve. > Date: Sun=2C 9 Mar 2014 11:43:54 +0100 > From: begnoc@gmail.com > To: 9fans@9fans.net > Subject: Re: [9fans] How to access CD drive? >=20 > Oh and use the 'mt server' nic in virtualbox=2C and you have to run a > cpu server and set up auth to use drawterm. It is covered on the wiki > i belive >=20 > 2014-03-09 11:11 GMT+01:00=2C Mark van Atten : > > To obtain shared folders=2C you may also decide to run=2C either on > > Windows or Lubuntu=2C a program named drawterm: > > > > http://plan9.bell-labs.com/magic/man2html/8/drawterm > > http://www.plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/drawterm/index.html > > http://swtch.com/drawterm/ > > > > It connects your host to the virtual Plan 9 machine=2C and draws a Plan > > 9 terminal on the host. In that terminal you have access to the host's > > file system again in /mnt/term > > > > Mark. > > > > >=20 = --_2d4f610c-ab39-44a5-93b1-d4b805553dfe_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Nah=2C still not getting it. Tha= nks for your replies=2C I do appreciate it=2C but I think I'll just stick t= o plan9port and abandon the plan 9 thing.

Cheers=2C

Steve.

>=3B Date: Sun=2C 9 Mar 2014 11:43:54 +0100
&= gt=3B From: begnoc@gmail.com
>=3B To: 9fans@9fans.net
>=3B Subjec= t: Re: [9fans] How to access CD drive?
>=3B
>=3B Oh and use the = 'mt server' nic in virtualbox=2C and you have to run a
>=3B cpu server= and set up auth to use drawterm. It is covered on the wiki
>=3B i bel= ive
>=3B
>=3B 2014-03-09 11:11 GMT+01:00=2C Mark van Atten <= =3Bvanattenmark@gmail.com>=3B:
>=3B >=3B To obtain shared folders= =2C you may also decide to run=2C either on
>=3B >=3B Windows or Lub= untu=2C a program named drawterm:
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B http://= plan9.bell-labs.com/magic/man2html/8/drawterm
>=3B >=3B http://www.p= lan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/drawterm/index.html
>=3B >=3B http://s= wtch.com/drawterm/
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B It connects your host = to the virtual Plan 9 machine=2C and draws a Plan
>=3B >=3B 9 termin= al on the host. In that terminal you have access to the host's
>=3B &g= t=3B file system again in /mnt/term
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Mark.=
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
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= --_2d4f610c-ab39-44a5-93b1-d4b805553dfe_-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 10:02:10 -0700 Message-ID: From: Skip Tavakkolian To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1134aa02a07af904f42f72f0 Subject: Re: [9fans] How to access CD drive? Topicbox-Message-UUID: c6d0105e-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --001a1134aa02a07af904f42f72f0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 unfortunately virtualbox "shared folders" would require a special driver [1] on the guest (i.e. Plan 9) os. the easier route is to figure out the network and then use cifs (SMB client on plan9) or sftpfs to import the host windows folders into plan 9. this is the recommended method [2] in virtualbox documentation. [1] https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#sharedfolders [2] https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Sharing_files_on_OSE On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 1:28 AM, Steve Foster wrote: > Hi all. > > I'm new here and to plan 9. > > I'm the kind of person who doesn't always pick things up straight away, > I'm a bit slow like that :-) The light bulb usually goes on - eventually. > Sometimes I just need someone to flick the switch a few times. So if my > questions come across as a bit dumb you'll know why. > > OK, so I'm new to Plan 9. I've managed to install it in virtualbox > (Windows 7 host) and can log in and use it. I've also installed plan9port > onto Lubuntu, also running in a virtual machine. > > Acme has become my main work environment now, I was an emacs user. I like > acme a lot and spend most of my time in there (I'm writing this post in > it). I use two screens; one with acme (plan9port) and the other with > everything else. This set up is working well for me and I'm happy to carry > on working like this. > > However, I would love to try working with acme in plan 9 itself. Well, I > can use it with no problems (so far anyway), but I can't get networking or > shared folders (virtualbox shared folders) working. This means, obviously, > that plan 9 is isolated from the outside world so any work I do is stuck in > there. Now, I'm trying ot get my head around the whole plan 9 thing and how > it works. I admit I'm struggling with it, but don't want to give up just > yet. > > So for starters, does anyone know how to get shared folders (virtualbox > shared folders) working in plan 9, I have them working OK in Lubuntu so no > problem there.? I know you have to install the virtualbox guest additions > and this is easy to do, but... > > This shows how much of a doofus I am. I don't know how to access the CD > drive in plan 9 which is where the guest additions would be installed from. > How do I do this please? I have searched, but have not managed to find the > answer, or maybe I have found it and didn't understand it. > > I've been reading the 9fan archives and realise that technically all you > chaps are way above me (as you can tell from my question) so please be > patient with me :-) > > I also can't get networking to work which may or may not be related to the > above, I'm not sure. I have tried the different suggestions I've found, but > nothing seems to work. If I could just get shared folders working that > would be great to start with. > > Thanks, > Steve. > --001a1134aa02a07af904f42f72f0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

unfortunately virtualbox "shared folders" would = require a special driver [1] on the guest (i.e. Plan 9) os. the easier rout= e is to figure out the network and then use cifs (SMB client on plan9) or s= ftpfs to import the host windows folders into plan 9. this is the recommend= ed method [2] in virtualbox documentation.

[1] https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#sharedfolders=

[2]=A0https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Sharing_files_on_OSE

On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 1:28 AM, Steve Foster <= steve-jf@outlook.= com> wrote:

Hi all.

I'm new her= e and to plan 9.

I'm the kind of person who do= esn't always pick things up straight away, I'm a bit slow like that= :-) The light bulb usually goes on - eventually. Sometimes I just need som= eone to flick the switch a few times. So if my questions come across as a b= it dumb you'll know why.

OK, so I'm new to Plan 9. I've managed to insta= ll it in virtualbox (Windows 7 host) and can log in and use it. I've al= so installed plan9port onto Lubuntu, also running in a virtual machine.

Acme has become my main work environment now, I was an = emacs user. I like acme a lot and spend most of my time in there (I'm w= riting this post in it). I use two screens; one with acme (plan9port) and t= he other with everything else. This set up is working well for me and I'= ;m happy to carry on working like this.

However, I would love to try working with acme in plan = 9 itself. Well, I can use it with no problems (so far anyway), but I can= 9;t get networking or shared folders (virtualbox shared folders) working. T= his means, obviously, that plan 9 is isolated from the outside world so any= work I do is stuck in there. Now, I'm trying ot get my head around the= whole plan 9 thing and how it works. I admit I'm struggling with it, b= ut don't want to give up just yet.

So for starters, does anyone know how to get shared fol= ders (virtualbox shared folders) working in plan 9, I have them working OK = in Lubuntu so no problem there.? I know you have to install the virtualbox = guest additions and =A0this is easy to do, but...

This shows how much of a doofus I am. I don't know = how to access the CD drive in plan 9 which is where the guest additions wou= ld be installed from. How do I do this please? I have searched, but have no= t managed to find the answer, or maybe I have found it and didn't under= stand it.

I've been reading the 9fan archives and realise tha= t technically all you chaps are way above me (as you can tell from my quest= ion) so please be patient with me :-)

I also can&#= 39;t get networking to work which may or may not be related to the above, I= 'm not sure. I have tried the different suggestions I've found, but= nothing seems to work. If I could just get shared folders working that wou= ld be great to start with.

Thanks,
Steve.

--001a1134aa02a07af904f42f72f0-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 20:57:39 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?B?QmVuY2UgRsOhYmnDoW4=?= To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [9fans] How to access CD drive? Topicbox-Message-UUID: c6f6ae58-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Cifs on windows 7 worked for me after doing the registry workaround mentioned in the README of cifs 2014-03-09 18:02 GMT+01:00, Skip Tavakkolian : > unfortunately virtualbox "shared folders" would require a special driver > [1] on the guest (i.e. Plan 9) os. the easier route is to figure out the > network and then use cifs (SMB client on plan9) or sftpfs to import the > host windows folders into plan 9. this is the recommended method [2] in > virtualbox documentation. > > [1] https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#sharedfolders > [2] https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Sharing_files_on_OSE > > > > On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 1:28 AM, Steve Foster wrote: > >> Hi all. >> >> I'm new here and to plan 9. >> >> I'm the kind of person who doesn't always pick things up straight away, >> I'm a bit slow like that :-) The light bulb usually goes on - eventually. >> Sometimes I just need someone to flick the switch a few times. So if my >> questions come across as a bit dumb you'll know why. >> >> OK, so I'm new to Plan 9. I've managed to install it in virtualbox >> (Windows 7 host) and can log in and use it. I've also installed plan9port >> onto Lubuntu, also running in a virtual machine. >> >> Acme has become my main work environment now, I was an emacs user. I like >> acme a lot and spend most of my time in there (I'm writing this post in >> it). I use two screens; one with acme (plan9port) and the other with >> everything else. This set up is working well for me and I'm happy to >> carry >> on working like this. >> >> However, I would love to try working with acme in plan 9 itself. Well, I >> can use it with no problems (so far anyway), but I can't get networking >> or >> shared folders (virtualbox shared folders) working. This means, >> obviously, >> that plan 9 is isolated from the outside world so any work I do is stuck >> in >> there. Now, I'm trying ot get my head around the whole plan 9 thing and >> how >> it works. I admit I'm struggling with it, but don't want to give up just >> yet. >> >> So for starters, does anyone know how to get shared folders (virtualbox >> shared folders) working in plan 9, I have them working OK in Lubuntu so >> no >> problem there.? I know you have to install the virtualbox guest additions >> and this is easy to do, but... >> >> This shows how much of a doofus I am. I don't know how to access the CD >> drive in plan 9 which is where the guest additions would be installed >> from. >> How do I do this please? I have searched, but have not managed to find >> the >> answer, or maybe I have found it and didn't understand it. >> >> I've been reading the 9fan archives and realise that technically all you >> chaps are way above me (as you can tell from my question) so please be >> patient with me :-) >> >> I also can't get networking to work which may or may not be related to >> the >> above, I'm not sure. I have tried the different suggestions I've found, >> but >> nothing seems to work. If I could just get shared folders working that >> would be great to start with. >> >> Thanks, >> Steve. >> > From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_e8babcf6-aab4-4dce-a3c7-f978aca24807_" From: Steve Foster To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 11:04:57 +0000 In-Reply-To: References: , , MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [9fans] How to access CD drive? Topicbox-Message-UUID: c897e4ca-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --_e8babcf6-aab4-4dce-a3c7-f978aca24807_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A bit of an update. Well I decided not to abandon the idea after all and give it another go. Along with the info in your replies (thanks again) and some other stuff I f= ound on the net I now have: Drawterm working on the host and my laptop. Networking is now working and I can access the internet using abaco. I can work completely in plan 9 if I want to and move files around between = it and the host using drawterm. I'm still trying to figure out how to get cifs working so am still working = on that. I have figured out how to access the CD drive. However=2C guestadditions wo= n't install=2C but I didn't think they would=2C just wanted to make sure. The whole 'everything is a file' thing is starting to become a little more = clear now. What has surprised me is how much I like working in plan 9=2C particularly = acme. I've even grown to like the way it looks including the colours. It do= esn't get in the way. I'm fortunate that most of what I do is text based so= I only need to dive into Windows or Linux for graphics stuff etc. Does anyone work exclusively in plan 9 or is that not feasible so you think= ? Thanks for your help again. > Date: Sun=2C 9 Mar 2014 20:57:39 +0100 > From: begnoc@gmail.com > To: 9fans@9fans.net > Subject: Re: [9fans] How to access CD drive? >=20 > Cifs on windows 7 worked for me after doing the registry workaround > mentioned in the README of cifs >=20 > 2014-03-09 18:02 GMT+01:00=2C Skip Tavakkolian : > > unfortunately virtualbox "shared folders" would require a special drive= r > > [1] on the guest (i.e. Plan 9) os. the easier route is to figure out th= e > > network and then use cifs (SMB client on plan9) or sftpfs to import the > > host windows folders into plan 9. this is the recommended method [2] in > > virtualbox documentation. > > > > [1] https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#sharedfolders > > [2] https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Sharing_files_on_OSE > > > > > > > > On Sun=2C Mar 9=2C 2014 at 1:28 AM=2C Steve Foster wrote: > > > >> Hi all. > >> > >> I'm new here and to plan 9. > >> > >> I'm the kind of person who doesn't always pick things up straight away= =2C > >> I'm a bit slow like that :-) The light bulb usually goes on - eventual= ly. > >> Sometimes I just need someone to flick the switch a few times. So if m= y > >> questions come across as a bit dumb you'll know why. > >> > >> OK=2C so I'm new to Plan 9. I've managed to install it in virtualbox > >> (Windows 7 host) and can log in and use it. I've also installed plan9p= ort > >> onto Lubuntu=2C also running in a virtual machine. > >> > >> Acme has become my main work environment now=2C I was an emacs user. I= like > >> acme a lot and spend most of my time in there (I'm writing this post i= n > >> it). I use two screens=3B one with acme (plan9port) and the other with > >> everything else. This set up is working well for me and I'm happy to > >> carry > >> on working like this. > >> > >> However=2C I would love to try working with acme in plan 9 itself. Wel= l=2C I > >> can use it with no problems (so far anyway)=2C but I can't get network= ing > >> or > >> shared folders (virtualbox shared folders) working. This means=2C > >> obviously=2C > >> that plan 9 is isolated from the outside world so any work I do is stu= ck > >> in > >> there. Now=2C I'm trying ot get my head around the whole plan 9 thing = and > >> how > >> it works. I admit I'm struggling with it=2C but don't want to give up = just > >> yet. > >> > >> So for starters=2C does anyone know how to get shared folders (virtual= box > >> shared folders) working in plan 9=2C I have them working OK in Lubuntu= so > >> no > >> problem there.? I know you have to install the virtualbox guest additi= ons > >> and this is easy to do=2C but... > >> > >> This shows how much of a doofus I am. I don't know how to access the C= D > >> drive in plan 9 which is where the guest additions would be installed > >> from. > >> How do I do this please? I have searched=2C but have not managed to fi= nd > >> the > >> answer=2C or maybe I have found it and didn't understand it. > >> > >> I've been reading the 9fan archives and realise that technically all y= ou > >> chaps are way above me (as you can tell from my question) so please be > >> patient with me :-) > >> > >> I also can't get networking to work which may or may not be related to > >> the > >> above=2C I'm not sure. I have tried the different suggestions I've fou= nd=2C > >> but > >> nothing seems to work. If I could just get shared folders working that > >> would be great to start with. > >> > >> Thanks=2C > >> Steve. > >> > > >=20 = --_e8babcf6-aab4-4dce-a3c7-f978aca24807_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

A bit of an update.

Well I decided not to abandon the idea after all and give it a= nother go.

Along with the info in your replies (thanks a= gain) and some other stuff I found on the net I now have:

Drawterm working on the host and my laptop.

Networking is now working and I can access the internet using abaco.

I can work completely in plan 9 if I want to and move = files around between it and the host using drawterm.

I'm still trying to figure out how to get cifs working so am still worki= ng on that.

I have figured out how to access the C= D drive. However=2C guestadditions won't install=2C but I didn't think they= would=2C just wanted to make sure.

The whole 'eve= rything is a file' thing is starting to become a little more clear now.

What has surprised me is how much I like working in p= lan 9=2C particularly acme. I've even grown to like the way it looks includ= ing the colours. It doesn't get in the way. I'm fortunate that most of what= I do is text based so I only need to dive into Windows or Linux for graphi= cs stuff etc.

Does anyone work exclusively in plan= 9 or is that not feasible so you think?

Thanks fo= r your help again.

>=3B Date: Sun=2C 9 Mar 2014 20:57:= 39 +0100
>=3B From: begnoc@gmail.com
>=3B To: 9fans@9fans.net
= >=3B Subject: Re: [9fans] How to access CD drive?
>=3B
>=3B Ci= fs on windows 7 worked for me after doing the registry workaround
>=3B= mentioned in the README of cifs
>=3B
>=3B 2014-03-09 18:02 GMT+= 01:00=2C Skip Tavakkolian <=3Bskip.tavakkolian@gmail.com>=3B:
>=3B= >=3B unfortunately virtualbox "shared folders" would require a special d= river
>=3B >=3B [1] on the guest (i.e. Plan 9) os. the easier route = is to figure out the
>=3B >=3B network and then use cifs (SMB client= on plan9) or sftpfs to import the
>=3B >=3B host windows folders in= to plan 9. this is the recommended method [2] in
>=3B >=3B virtualbo= x documentation.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B [1] https://www.virtualb= ox.org/manual/ch04.html#sharedfolders
>=3B >=3B [2] https://www.virt= ualbox.org/wiki/Sharing_files_on_OSE
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
&= gt=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B On Sun=2C Mar 9=2C 2014 at 1:28 AM=2C Steve F= oster <=3Bsteve-jf@outlook.com>=3B wrote:
>=3B >=3B
>=3B &g= t=3B>=3B Hi all.
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B I'm new he= re and to plan 9.
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B I'm the kin= d of person who doesn't always pick things up straight away=2C
>=3B &g= t=3B>=3B I'm a bit slow like that :-) The light bulb usually goes on - ev= entually.
>=3B >=3B>=3B Sometimes I just need someone to flick the= switch a few times. So if my
>=3B >=3B>=3B questions come across = as a bit dumb you'll know why.
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>= =3B OK=2C so I'm new to Plan 9. I've managed to install it in virtualbox>=3B >=3B>=3B (Windows 7 host) and can log in and use it. I've also = installed plan9port
>=3B >=3B>=3B onto Lubuntu=2C also running in = a virtual machine.
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B Acme has b= ecome my main work environment now=2C I was an emacs user. I like
>=3B= >=3B>=3B acme a lot and spend most of my time in there (I'm writing th= is post in
>=3B >=3B>=3B it). I use two screens=3B one with acme (= plan9port) and the other with
>=3B >=3B>=3B everything else. This = set up is working well for me and I'm happy to
>=3B >=3B>=3B carry=
>=3B >=3B>=3B on working like this.
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>= =3B >=3B>=3B However=2C I would love to try working with acme in plan 9= itself. Well=2C I
>=3B >=3B>=3B can use it with no problems (so f= ar anyway)=2C but I can't get networking
>=3B >=3B>=3B or
>= =3B >=3B>=3B shared folders (virtualbox shared folders) working. This m= eans=2C
>=3B >=3B>=3B obviously=2C
>=3B >=3B>=3B that pla= n 9 is isolated from the outside world so any work I do is stuck
>=3B = >=3B>=3B in
>=3B >=3B>=3B there. Now=2C I'm trying ot get my h= ead around the whole plan 9 thing and
>=3B >=3B>=3B how
>=3B = >=3B>=3B it works. I admit I'm struggling with it=2C but don't want to = give up just
>=3B >=3B>=3B yet.
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B &= gt=3B>=3B So for starters=2C does anyone know how to get shared folders (= virtualbox
>=3B >=3B>=3B shared folders) working in plan 9=2C I ha= ve them working OK in Lubuntu so
>=3B >=3B>=3B no
>=3B >=3B= >=3B problem there.? I know you have to install the virtualbox guest addi= tions
>=3B >=3B>=3B and this is easy to do=2C but...
>=3B &g= t=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B This shows how much of a doofus I am. I d= on't know how to access the CD
>=3B >=3B>=3B drive in plan 9 which= is where the guest additions would be installed
>=3B >=3B>=3B fro= m.
>=3B >=3B>=3B How do I do this please? I have searched=2C but h= ave not managed to find
>=3B >=3B>=3B the
>=3B >=3B>=3B a= nswer=2C or maybe I have found it and didn't understand it.
>=3B >= =3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B I've been reading the 9fan archives and re= alise that technically all you
>=3B >=3B>=3B chaps are way above m= e (as you can tell from my question) so please be
>=3B >=3B>=3B pa= tient with me :-)
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B I also can'= t get networking to work which may or may not be related to
>=3B >= =3B>=3B the
>=3B >=3B>=3B above=2C I'm not sure. I have tried th= e different suggestions I've found=2C
>=3B >=3B>=3B but
>=3B = >=3B>=3B nothing seems to work. If I could just get shared folders work= ing that
>=3B >=3B>=3B would be great to start with.
>=3B >= =3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B Thanks=2C
>=3B >=3B>=3B Steve.>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B

= --_e8babcf6-aab4-4dce-a3c7-f978aca24807_-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 08:50:45 -0600 Message-ID: From: andrey mirtchovski To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [9fans] How to access CD drive? Topicbox-Message-UUID: c8a05650-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > What has surprised me is how much I like working in plan 9, particularly > acme. I've even grown to like the way it looks including the colours. the colour palette has been specifically chosen to be easy on the eyes. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: erik quanstrom Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 10:55:32 -0400 To: 9fans@9fans.net Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References:

MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] How to access CD drive? Topicbox-Message-UUID: c8aa5f2e-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > Does anyone work exclusively in plan 9 or is that not feasible so you think? i do. and many of the folks at the labs did. since the subject is cd drive access, one of the things that i found much easier with plan 9 is cd access. not only is it dead simple, and utterly seamless with the rest of the system, it's so much better than the author of cdparanoia whining to you about choices the designers of $unixsystem made. - erik From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_b51e1c3b-3927-4f43-9e19-f684ff9b7646_" From: Steve Foster To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 15:58:31 +0000 In-Reply-To: References: , , , , MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [9fans] How to access CD drive? Topicbox-Message-UUID: c8bb318c-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --_b51e1c3b-3927-4f43-9e19-f684ff9b7646_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > From: quanstro@quanstro.net > Date: Tue=2C 11 Mar 2014 10:55:32 -0400 > To: 9fans@9fans.net > Subject: Re: [9fans] How to access CD drive? >=20 > > Does anyone work exclusively in plan 9 or is that not feasible so you t= hink? >=20 > i do. and many of the folks at the labs did. >=20 > since the subject is cd drive access=2C one of the things that i found mu= ch > easier with plan 9 is cd access. not only is it dead simple=2C and utter= ly > seamless with the rest of the system=2C it's so much better than the auth= or of > cdparanoia whining to you about choices the designers of $unixsystem > made. >=20 > - erik >=20 Thanks erik. I agree that cd access is easy=2C now that I know how. I'm goi= ng to try working in plan 9 as much as I can and continue learning about it= . If I could ask you another couple of questions. I do use linux. I've started learning C programming. I have been using linu= x as the platform to learn on. I was thinking of changing over to plan 9 fo= r this as well. Would you recommend doing this? I'm not thinking of it from= a work viewpoint so that's not an issue=2C but I like the idea of being ab= le to (hopefully=2C eventually) understand something as a whole and not jus= t bits and bobs. As I understand it this is possible with plan 9? Do you run plan 9 in a virtual machine or on native hardware? Cheers=2CSteve. = --_b51e1c3b-3927-4f43-9e19-f684ff9b7646_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

>=3B From: quanst= ro@quanstro.net
>=3B Date: Tue=2C 11 Mar 2014 10:55:32 -0400
>=3B= To: 9fans@9fans.net
>=3B Subject: Re: [9fans] How to access CD drive?=
>=3B
>=3B >=3B Does anyone work exclusively in plan 9 or is t= hat not feasible so you think?
>=3B
>=3B i do. and many of the = folks at the labs did.
>=3B
>=3B since the subject is cd drive a= ccess=2C one of the things that i found much
>=3B easier with plan 9 i= s cd access. not only is it dead simple=2C and utterly
>=3B seamless = with the rest of the system=2C it's so much better than the author of
&g= t=3B cdparanoia whining to you about choices the designers of $unixsystem>=3B made.
>=3B
>=3B - erik
>=3B

Thanks erik. I agree that cd access is easy=2C now that I know how.= I'm going to try working in plan 9 as much as I can and continue learning = about it.

If I could ask you another couple of que= stions.

I do use linux. I've started learning C pr= ogramming. I have been using linux as the platform to learn on. I was think= ing of changing over to plan 9 for this as well. Would you recommend doing = this? I'm not thinking of it from a work viewpoint so that's not an issue= =2C but I like the idea of being able to (hopefully=2C eventually) understa= nd something as a whole and not just bits and bobs. As I understand it this= is possible with plan 9?

Do you run plan 9 in a v= irtual machine or on native hardware?

Cheers=2C

Steve.

= --_b51e1c3b-3927-4f43-9e19-f684ff9b7646_-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_82e42d34-e139-4eae-85ab-251297068451_" From: Steve Foster To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 16:01:53 +0000 In-Reply-To: References: , , , , MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [9fans] How to access CD drive? Topicbox-Message-UUID: c8c24aee-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --_82e42d34-e139-4eae-85ab-251297068451_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Date: Tue=2C 11 Mar 2014 08:50:45 -0600 > From: mirtchovski@gmail.com > To: 9fans@9fans.net > Subject: Re: [9fans] How to access CD drive? >=20 > > What has surprised me is how much I like working in plan 9=2C particula= rly > > acme. I've even grown to like the way it looks including the colours. >=20 > the colour palette has been specifically chosen to be easy on the eyes. >=20 And it is! I used to spend ages fiddling with different colour schemes in e= macs and sublime text (basically it's a distraction for me) and it's a reli= ef not to have that option any more. I believe you can change it at code le= vel=2C but I see no need too. = --_82e42d34-e139-4eae-85ab-251297068451_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

>=3B Date: Tue=2C= 11 Mar 2014 08:50:45 -0600
>=3B From: mirtchovski@gmail.com
>=3B= To: 9fans@9fans.net
>=3B Subject: Re: [9fans] How to access CD drive?=
>=3B
>=3B >=3B What has surprised me is how much I like worki= ng in plan 9=2C particularly
>=3B >=3B acme. I've even grown to like= the way it looks including the colours.
>=3B
>=3B the colour pa= lette has been specifically chosen to be easy on the eyes.
>=3B

And it is! I used to spend ages fiddling with diffe= rent colour schemes in emacs and sublime text (basically it's a distraction= for me) and it's a relief not to have that option any more. I believe you = can change it at code level=2C but I see no need too.

= --_82e42d34-e139-4eae-85ab-251297068451_-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: erik quanstrom Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 12:23:55 -0400 To: 9fans@9fans.net Message-ID: <241ab563d898a93e2f225861c12da009@ladd.quanstro.net> In-Reply-To: References:

MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] How to access CD drive? Topicbox-Message-UUID: c8cb1084-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > learning about it. If I could ask you another couple of questions. I > do use linux. I've started learning C programming. I have been using > linux as the platform to learn on. I was thinking of changing over to > plan 9 for this as well. Would you recommend doing this? I'm not heck, ya! learning c is easier when the system doesn't add a layer of difficulty. i've found it to be a great help to be able to read the header files, and dive into the libraries without finding a maze of twisty passages. learning the standard way of doing things is a bit of trivia that can be done later. > this is possible with plan 9? Do you run plan 9 in a virtual machine > or on native hardware? native. sadly, i have not made much time for virtual machines. i currently run amd64, mips (routerboard), arm (openrd and rpi). - erik From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: From: Patrick Kelly To: "'Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs'" <9fans@9fans.net> References: , , , ,

In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 12:28:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] How to access CD drive? Topicbox-Message-UUID: c8d0fe18-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 >From: 9fans-bounces@9fans.net [mailto:9fans-bounces@9fans.net] On Behalf Of Steve Foster >Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 12:02 PM >To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs >Subject: Re: [9fans] How to access CD drive? > > >> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 08:50:45 -0600 >> From: mirtchovski@gmail.com >> To: 9fans@9fans.net >> Subject: Re: [9fans] How to access CD drive? >> >> > What has surprised me is how much I like working in plan 9, particularly >> > acme. I've even grown to like the way it looks including the colours. >> >> the colour palette has been specifically chosen to be easy on the eyes. >> > >And it is! I used to spend ages fiddling with different colour schemes in emacs and sublime text (basically it's a distraction for me) and it's a relief not to have that option any more. I believe you can change it at code level, but I see no need too. Research is nearly always neglected, unless the research shows higher profits. Pretty sells machines, but is hard on the eyes when actually working. Plan 9 is gorgeous, in a different, but easily arguable, way than OS X or recent UNIX GUI's. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <8537a83fbb11a3faa065aee4b5cdcc14@quintile.net> From: "Steve Simon" Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 16:46:00 +0000 To: 9fans@9fans.net In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] How to access CD drive? Topicbox-Message-UUID: c8d6a336-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > Does anyone work exclusively in plan 9 or is that not feasible so you think? I work almost exclusively on plan9, I have it on my desktop at work and a server and Raspberry Pi at home. Having said this I also have a Windows VM at work (via remote desktop), and an ipad at home to give me a modern web browser when I need one. Whether its feasible is a personal decision. What tools do you need and what do you want to do? I enjoy plan9, its code hygiene, the simplicity of admin, trying new (file server based) ways of solving old problems etc. > I'm still trying to figure out how to get cifs working so am still working on that. Which way round, cifs server or client on plan9? The plan9 client was one of mine so if you have problems I will attempt to help. -Steve From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: From: Steve Foster To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 17:01:44 +0000 In-Reply-To: <8537a83fbb11a3faa065aee4b5cdcc14@quintile.net> References: , <8537a83fbb11a3faa065aee4b5cdcc14@quintile.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [9fans] How to access CD drive? Topicbox-Message-UUID: c8dc5fe2-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > From: steve@quintile.net=0A= > Date: Tue=2C 11 Mar 2014 16:46:00 +0000=0A= > To: 9fans@9fans.net=0A= > Subject: Re: [9fans] How to access CD drive?=0A= > =0A= >> Does anyone work exclusively in plan 9 or is that not feasible so you th= ink?=0A= > =0A= > I work almost exclusively on plan9=2C I have it on my desktop at work=0A= > and a server and Raspberry Pi at home. Having said this I also have=0A= > a Windows VM at work (via remote desktop)=2C and an ipad at home to =0A= > give me a modern web browser when I need one.=0A= > =0A= > Whether its feasible is a personal decision. What tools do you need=0A= > and what do you want to do? I enjoy plan9=2C its code hygiene=2C the=0A= > simplicity of admin=2C trying new (file server based) ways of solving=0A= > old problems etc.=0A= >=A0=0A= =0A= I should be able to do most of what I need to in plan9. I would say about 9= 0% of what I do is text based so I spend a lot of time in acme.=0A= =0A= >> I'm still trying to figure out how to get cifs working so am still worki= ng on that.=0A= > =0A= > Which way round=2C cifs server or client on plan9?=0A= > =0A= > The plan9 client was one of mine so if you have problems=0A= > I will attempt to help.=0A= =0A= I have Windows 7 as host with plan9 in a virtual machine. I want to be able= to access directories on the host directly from plan9. So I think it would= be the client on plan9. I did find some instructions on how to set this up= which I've lost and am trying find again.=0A= =0A= It involved installing two things. The first one seemed to go OK=2C but the= second (your client I think) failed with an error message that said someth= ing along the lines of "no replica" and mentioned your name.=0A= =0A= Hope that helps.=0A= =0A= Cheers=2C=0A= Steve.=0A= =0A= > =0A= > -Steve=0A= > = From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <6d825c4add648198ac588df553ebc3aa@quintile.net> From: "Steve Simon" Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 23:10:06 +0000 To: 9fans@9fans.net In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] How to access CD drive? Topicbox-Message-UUID: c8e260d6-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Mmm, not sure what the two things might have been. There is a registry tweek for Vista, and Win7 you need to support the raw/simple NTLMV2 auth: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/957441. I haven't tried Win8 yet, I have no win8 machines I need access to, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is the same. Alternatively the -a option can be used to force cifs to use one of the less secure authentication mechnisms, e.g. cifs -a ntlm hostname also, check the cifs manpage, it generates a top level directory of virtual files, mixed with the top level share names (often 'c'), a bad design choice with hindsight, they should have been selected with an atatch specifier but I wrote this a long time ago. email me off-list if you still have problems. -Steve