From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20130905230735.Horde.uX0zjY3pqclxqj9wO4Uw-Q1@ssl.eumx.net> <1a806fac73b7f5d77492e855f816fca4@quintile.net> From: pmarin Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 08:24:37 +0200 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [9fans] Closed nix development is an insult Topicbox-Message-UUID: 7b84a90c-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 I thought all the discussion of how the development process should be more open ended with the creation of 9front. For me one of the best things about 9front is that I can follow all the changes in the code by reading their mailing list. pmarin On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Bruce Ellis wrote: > I don't really understand this thread. I thought it was a stupid flame war, > in which case I can only say that I miss Boyd calling a spade a fucking > shovel. > > I was disturbed by the claim that v10 had been lost because of bullshit, but > said nothing. > > If indeed someone has lost their v10 I can replace it. If you are in > australia it's easy. Contact me with the details of your import license and > I will arrange for a copy on TK50 for you. I'm not allowed to > export/sell/destroy it so I'm stuck with it. Nearly all of cmd is on the web > anyway! > > And a complete rack of plan9 servers is a lot quieter, faster, and uses lest > power than my Vax. > > But I digress, voting nemo Plan9 innovator of the month. Shoot me. > > brucee > > > On 7 September 2013 14:06, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: >> >> 2013/9/6 erik quanstrom : >> >> > I created it I do what I want with it. >> >> >> >> I believe the rules are different when the work is research, sponsored >> >> by public money. People are getting research grants to work on nix. >> > >> > who is getting grants to work on nix? >> > >> >> > as far as i know, there is no private nix development going on >> >> >> >> Who are you kidding. This is the norm around here. I have been >> >> personally invited in multiple private Plan 9-related projects by some >> >> of the few proemiment members of this community that still write code. >> >> This has always been the norm; read 15 year old 9fans posts and find >> >> that the same attitude (and complaints) prevail. >> > >> > i'm not sure if you're complaining or bragging. >> > >> > but anyway, we're talking about current nix (which i take to mean >> > current 64-bit intel/amd development of any sort). >> > >> > so have you been invited to participate in private nix development? >> >> I've been invited. I'm too busy, and I feel like a dick, because I >> think it'd be a lot of fun. I'm happy that people are contributing. >> >> But I do wish that this list and the software produced by the people >> on it was more transparent. I'm sure nobody likes bitbucket or github >> here, but I'm pretty sure everyone would be happy with a 9p mount of >> ongoing development. It's amazing what commented changesets do for >> software engineering in organizations (public or private) to quell >> worries about those projects. >> >> --dho >> >> > - erik >> > >> >