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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Seems to me that there is always going to be some non-zero risk of lawsuits when making a change like this, but clearly the foundation was comfortable with the risk. So what's the point of this discussion? Who are these disgruntled contributors you are speaking on behalf of? On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 09:34, wrote: > > It=E2=80=99s all the code that everyone is using. > > The issue is that there is some code in Plan 9 not written at > > Bell Labs which doesn't explicitly specify any license. >=20 > What actual code are you reffering to? >=20 ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tf20bce89ef96d4b6-M7b53e= 7f2ae45652051b069ed Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription --0000000000002b511005bed7b8ae Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Seems to me that there is always going to be s= ome non-zero risk of lawsuits when making a change like this, but clearly t= he foundation was comfortable with the risk. So what's the point of thi= s discussion? Who are these disgruntled contributors you are speaking on be= half of?

On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 09:34, <kvik@a-b.xyz> wrote:
> It’s all the code that everyone is using. > The issue is that there is some code in Plan 9 not written at
> Bell Labs which doesn't explicitly specify any license.

What actual code are you reffering to?


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