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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It was the different characteristics of hard drives, even decent SATA, compared to SSD and nvme that I had in mind. On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 at 15:30, Charles Forsyth wrote: > zfs is very big, complicated and the code looks ancient. I did not enjoy > working with it. > > On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 at 08:51, hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> wrote: > >> fixing another couple deadlocks makes you finally consider ditching >> fossil? >> zfs storage isn't always permanent either, for example if you use >> encryption or deduplication. >> >> On 4/6/23, Lucio De Re wrote: >> > On 4/6/23, noam@pixelhero.dev wrote: >> >> Quoth Charles Forsyth : >> >>> fussing about certain things for hard drives that probably don't >> matter >> >>> for >> >>> SSD let alone nvme >> >> >> >> I am once again asking you to be more specific, please :) >> >> >> >> I have Plans for improving venti for myself, it'd be great to actually >> >> have a specific list of issues that others have noticed! >> >> >> > I presume that fossil doesn't apply special treatment to SSD and NVME >> > which to my limited understand could be a serious downside. I guess >> > I'm asking whether one should seriously consider ditching the >> > fossil/venti combination and consider centralising permanent storage >> > on something like ZFS instead? >> > >> > Lucio. ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T354fe702e1e9d5e9-M3a916= ec52a7ef1d354e615bd Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription --000000000000b57c8f05f8d412ec Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It was the different characteristics of hard d= rives, even decent SATA, compared to SSD and nvme that I had in mind.
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On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 at 15:30, Charles Forsyth <charles.forsyth@gmail.com> wrote:
zfs is very big, complicated and the code looks ancient. I did not enjoy w= orking with it.

On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 at 08:51, hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> wrote:
fixing another couple d= eadlocks makes you finally consider ditching fossil?
zfs storage isn't always permanent either, for example if you use
encryption or deduplication.

On 4/6/23, Lucio De Re <lucio.dere@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 4/6/23, noa= m@pixelhero.dev <noam@pixelhero.dev> wrote:
>> Quoth Charles Forsyth <charles.forsyth@gmail.com>:
>>> fussing about certain things for hard drives that probably don= 't matter
>>> for
>>> SSD let alone nvme
>>
>> I am once again asking you to be more specific, please :)
>>
>> I have Plans for improving venti for myself, it'd be great to = actually
>> have a specific list of issues that others have noticed!
>>
> I presume that fossil doesn't apply special treatment to SSD and N= VME
> which to my limited understand could be a serious downside. I guess > I'm asking whether one should seriously consider ditching the
> fossil/venti combination and consider centralising permanent storage > on something like ZFS instead?
>
> Lucio.

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