From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <2522920406.enqueue@as-laptop> <0031c5cf57e92ce48e169455b02639be@quintile.net> <8oqsn9xcur.ln2@news.homelinux.net> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 11:57:13 +0000 Message-ID: From: Charles Forsyth To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [9fans] c++ Topicbox-Message-UUID: e01b88c8-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 I'm writing Java now, after a long gap, and it's ok. It has its share of annoying aspects, but it's not too bad. Java is a bit like a high-level assembler for the JVM, and there are too many packages, many with intricate interfaces and conventions. C# fixes every one of my complaints about the Java language, and generally seems more thoughtful. I simply ignore the philosophy as much as I can, although it's hard to escape the terminology (all those "factories"). On 22 November 2012 11:34, hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> wrote: > java feel highly inconsistent and are full of stupid busywork > and strange programming philosophies that you have to "learn" about, > but teach you nothing.