From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from tb-ob1.topicbox.com (tb-ob1.topicbox.com [64.147.108.173]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A09C5245CE for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2024 06:09:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from tb-mx1.topicbox.com (tb-mx1.nyi.icgroup.com [10.90.30.61]) by tb-ob1.topicbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CFB82E03D for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2024 00:09:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bounce.mMb8a9a40361e9e1e26d3b509f.r522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa@9fans.bounce.topicbox.com) Received: by tb-mx1.topicbox.com (Postfix, from userid 1132) id 9A7051490BDE; Tue, 16 Apr 2024 00:09:15 -0400 (EDT) ARC-Authentication-Results: i=2; topicbox.com; arc=pass; dkim=pass (2048-bit rsa key sha256) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b=I46R0BuF header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=20230601 x-bits=2048; dmarc=pass policy.published-domain-policy=none policy.published-subdomain-policy=quarantine policy.applied-disposition=none policy.evaluated-disposition=none (p=none,sp=quarantine,d=none,d.eval=none) policy.policy-from=p header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=charles.forsyth@gmail.com smtp.helo=mail-lj1-f173.google.com; x-internal-arc=fail (as.1.topicbox.com=pass, ams.1.topicbox.com=fail (message has been altered)) (Message modified while forwarding at Topicbox) ARC-Message-Signature: i=2; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= topicbox.com; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type:list-help:list-id:list-post :list-subscribe:reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :list-unsubscribe; s=sysmsg-1; t=1713240555; bh=Hc7Vy+GbJK4KyBNz jlxPGX3h9S+H+MURuXNn4Tg7aTU=; b=PGK7FSxCN+hQx3wHmB8YLq/U0xvYZ47o MwRc1ojn5L75rYSUR4/IBIgt8EyZMP7E+PRIMmks+4zrE9m8rS9WzLlm5FNvEb/n wl9dE3YyPd8pk+7yOdVDBgHGGw3qcwoLs5OhKollKJVGjPunZlmx6TEQOJIl8zml 0Gr3eUrHdLc= ARC-Seal: i=2; a=rsa-sha256; cv=pass; d=topicbox.com; s=sysmsg-1; t= 1713240555; b=ccoQjq2VWqVirb2dSrdDS1AaPu2AhxMYNXYYN+HCIwdd16DcqP je6B9qGe4FB9rZBzk7608SeROE3BrQANuDjYPjwl6Z9lSFLvtkzlrUAjmsEGMXaD 3s3rqf0pD+x5nZey+KbZczvWVSSp+3a4YtFNWPDcmocrnmZyE8MV+7428= Authentication-Results: topicbox.com; arc=pass; dkim=pass (2048-bit rsa key sha256) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b=I46R0BuF header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=20230601 x-bits=2048; dmarc=pass policy.published-domain-policy=none policy.published-subdomain-policy=quarantine policy.applied-disposition=none policy.evaluated-disposition=none (p=none,sp=quarantine,d=none,d.eval=none) policy.policy-from=p header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=charles.forsyth@gmail.com smtp.helo=mail-lj1-f173.google.com; x-internal-arc=fail (as.1.topicbox.com=pass, ams.1.topicbox.com=fail (message has been altered)) (Message modified while forwarding at Topicbox) X-Received-Authentication-Results: tb-mx1.topicbox.com; arc=none (no signatures found); bimi=skipped (DMARC Policy is not at enforcement); dkim=pass (2048-bit rsa key sha256) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b=I46R0BuF header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=20230601 x-bits=2048; dmarc=pass policy.published-domain-policy=none policy.published-subdomain-policy=quarantine policy.applied-disposition=none policy.evaluated-disposition=none (p=none,sp=quarantine,d=none,d.eval=none) policy.policy-from=p header.from=gmail.com; iprev=pass smtp.remote-ip=209.85.208.173 (mail-lj1-f173.google.com); spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=charles.forsyth@gmail.com smtp.helo=mail-lj1-f173.google.com; x-aligned-from=pass (Address match); x-google-dkim=pass (2048-bit rsa key) header.d=1e100.net header.i=@1e100.net header.b=QndEAoF9; x-me-sender=none; x-ptr=pass smtp.helo=mail-lj1-f173.google.com policy.ptr=mail-lj1-f173.google.com; x-return-mx=pass header.domain=gmail.com policy.is_org=yes (MX Records found: alt2.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com,gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com,alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com,alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com,alt4.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com); x-return-mx=pass smtp.domain=gmail.com policy.is_org=yes (MX Records found: alt2.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com,gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com,alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com,alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com,alt4.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com); x-tls=pass smtp.version=TLSv1.2 smtp.cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 smtp.bits=256/256; x-vs=clean score=0 state=0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=9fans.net; h= mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject :to:content-type:list-help:list-id:list-post:list-subscribe :reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:list-unsubscribe; s=dkim-1; t=1713240555; x=1713326955; bh=kGVslWg353c/UeaI5YK4oC1OEIcfassS +Wvq3aGuQI0=; b=Lmvb99OdZcl9c/uEnaEpS1QXpMQIIFFXPHBHQ7qkiJGh+v6D WE8JjxRTpuY0hhLCkDTieYxbWI6xR3XZpOZRRyZcFCtipS57g222H8H0gtgZyliK q9bM1yZXBfwei79GI78nGooToKhHHkiIL1O3uNSMvzCKM/gAeAxr4DwocbM= Received: from tb-mx1.topicbox.com (localhost.local [127.0.0.1]) by tb-mx1.topicbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B132714907A3 for <9fans@9fans.net>; Tue, 16 Apr 2024 00:08:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from charles.forsyth@gmail.com) Received: from tb-mx1.topicbox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tb-mx1.topicbox.com (Authentication Milter) with ESMTP id 4C43DB56DF4; Tue, 16 Apr 2024 00:08:59 -0400 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; d=topicbox.com; s=arcseal; t= 1713240539; b=QYcEK5L29p9xqerP6UkiUshWaNlKAzkI4J4OabMXAVye+6+Txo K7iBIyp7vW6/4EwNB5pl68S5Dhol4HWLajy3GmeVe5Nmws95GeX1q2pIJKbmAcys jt1xR/GLizB4DA3f1UX0gfQSM+7brUmsX/+fwUKGeizzBvvq7Mbciy0ocevDvCdW Z3bSRX5QQ9KghUpnYrovNLj6A3Y7VMTK4/BLvdvRWutEBE8yrZQHFuGFkgsG3N3b YtTKKQjPMs2Bl5YsG+XChgsZDdBK5nZoDIHNI14Z7uNqlvDPGa+R2YszonGtbx8J vFvGZjmz50bDaay56oLxj+xCwacYR2v9N81w== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= topicbox.com; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; s=arcseal; t=1713240539; bh=iXjJCTAn/rrmrAGNceWLO3+igKiG7cLCSBtt9QZajLs=; b=qMOmbQAEnRbz sLKUGAeuqS4SXD6bKaBV0IyPTj5mFQ3tJgLQZCn3jPNvTZP9B8S8olwXF/ktmHOz sfjJZifBnjL9d8HWPQBAyipy1JelWUGdB9GFMutmSjcObDCRq+FuoN6gNTP5c3JL 8HSxYFIh50+C1TCO6cPKH9W1kR3s9IFa8kLOrs46mIJzT0krBJ84KHBzsaT58Z9P m/TCUOUwlYXcpZAJHZk4Fjl3KKWnWsYuoUBjKoGkSHVoa//6n1fCkM80zPDYU/8m uGb+yS5/8LGT/JcHBs3PODD9z/y6KjsN/a9Be/6PtiEdsrHua8yBUEp7+KioOnRF 29BboobHrg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; tb-mx1.topicbox.com; arc=none (no signatures found); bimi=skipped (DMARC Policy is not at enforcement); dkim=pass (2048-bit rsa key sha256) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b=I46R0BuF header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=20230601 x-bits=2048; dmarc=pass policy.published-domain-policy=none policy.published-subdomain-policy=quarantine policy.applied-disposition=none policy.evaluated-disposition=none (p=none,sp=quarantine,d=none,d.eval=none) policy.policy-from=p header.from=gmail.com; iprev=pass smtp.remote-ip=209.85.208.173 (mail-lj1-f173.google.com); spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=charles.forsyth@gmail.com smtp.helo=mail-lj1-f173.google.com; x-aligned-from=pass (Address match); x-google-dkim=pass (2048-bit rsa key) header.d=1e100.net header.i=@1e100.net header.b=QndEAoF9; x-me-sender=none; x-ptr=pass smtp.helo=mail-lj1-f173.google.com policy.ptr=mail-lj1-f173.google.com; x-return-mx=pass header.domain=gmail.com policy.is_org=yes (MX Records found: alt2.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com,gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com,alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com,alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com,alt4.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com); x-return-mx=pass smtp.domain=gmail.com policy.is_org=yes (MX Records found: alt2.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com,gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com,alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com,alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com,alt4.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com); x-tls=pass smtp.version=TLSv1.2 smtp.cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 smtp.bits=256/256; x-vs=clean score=0 state=0 X-ME-VSCause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvledrudejfedgkedtucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvpdfu rfetoffkrfgpnffqhgenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpeggfhgjhf ffkffuvfgtsegrtderredttdejnecuhfhrohhmpeevhhgrrhhlvghsucfhohhrshihthhh uceotghhrghrlhgvshdrfhhorhhshihthhesghhmrghilhdrtghomheqnecuggftrfgrth htvghrnhephffggfelkeeuuddufedvtdeiieffkeevfeejfffhuddvgfdvleetjedvkeek vdetnecuffhomhgrihhnpegtuhhlrghnghdrohhrghdpthhophhitggsohigrdgtohhmne cukfhppedvtdelrdekhedrvddtkedrudejfeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecu rfgrrhgrmhepihhnvghtpedvtdelrdekhedrvddtkedrudejfedphhgvlhhopehmrghilh dqlhhjuddqfhdujeefrdhgohhoghhlvgdrtghomhdpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpeeotghhrghr lhgvshdrfhhorhhshihthhesghhmrghilhdrtghomheqpdhnsggprhgtphhtthhopedupd hrtghpthhtohepoeelfhgrnhhsseelfhgrnhhsrdhnvghtqe X-ME-VSScore: 0 X-ME-VSCategory: clean Received-SPF: pass (gmail.com ... _spf.google.com: Sender is authorized to use 'charles.forsyth@gmail.com' in 'mfrom' identity (mechanism 'include:_netblocks.google.com' matched)) receiver=tb-mx1.topicbox.com; identity=mailfrom; envelope-from="charles.forsyth@gmail.com"; helo=mail-lj1-f173.google.com; client-ip=209.85.208.173 Received: from mail-lj1-f173.google.com (mail-lj1-f173.google.com [209.85.208.173]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tb-mx1.topicbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS for <9fans@9fans.net>; Tue, 16 Apr 2024 00:08:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from charles.forsyth@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lj1-f173.google.com with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2d6ff0422a2so48806881fa.2 for <9fans@9fans.net>; Mon, 15 Apr 2024 21:08:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1713240537; x=1713845337; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=iXjJCTAn/rrmrAGNceWLO3+igKiG7cLCSBtt9QZajLs=; b=QndEAoF9V83CZIg9UXT/MCeceLXjMvaN/853ncbEYG/v3RT0rRG2kR+tZr2oSrFl9y sZ6EPeioKrT6mRVlwXVPFUXHVvhXDVfdD62Ly0He6IvSGZxSDqnjczSa17FOLNL08uAB 9+2JB9/1+8udfBkl5zCG79Z9O//CCQj25rFqOx1D4bxpcb9gvDtALnSgCi708Dl35c6Q +pvz9hsjSlXA1/nIvaei6i2MnE95+orp/H//OC/rx8ei2xUWJPVGSrg/fO3aC0R0goTh H8M7F8Xw3DSAnQUF5n5fjxoQV9vEH3tnwIvOlbh1hZth9WTdTyFlFpd7IYAtBCpOdL7b WmFg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yzq+12g2RwKfgmzPi1uSdmVXPYk9fS4y7jEFaWNrYYSYWc12dNo v08v2k4kd/Ux7eBxYDqGp+J+jX5NpUCG+20XUEgSMDiUjaDOn+tB2TtDI5iIZmyxx8hOCjJJK8l Dxrzgalcg/93AfmWHcwC+5aSn7veq9aMU1g8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEPmcwvCSxDPRlgEjK7BkKcs6AY+C/ACo/fsh9LZ2kxnHz0oFwZsEIq6mTskM80wDJvmWhAsONBFub5Ci8di1M= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:3209:0:b0:2d8:d8b5:73c7 with SMTP id y9-20020a2e3209000000b002d8d8b573c7mr6822627ljy.23.1713240537082; Mon, 15 Apr 2024 21:08:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <742D19E4-EB85-48D0-9894-F30E40F5CD13@pobox.com> <1B7C5BF9-844A-4488-82D5-63740AFE7E1B@westryn.net> <202404160323.43G3ND30021443@freefriends.org> In-Reply-To: <202404160323.43G3ND30021443@freefriends.org> From: Charles Forsyth Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2024 05:08:45 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [9fans] troll paper To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000000000000a0b50806162ee5db Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: 1233787c-fba7-11ee-a964-f1caee671834 Archived-At: =?UTF-8?B?PGh0dHBzOi8vOWZhbnMudG9waWNib3guY29tL2dyb3Vwcy85?= =?UTF-8?B?ZmFucy9UNTFmN2Y1YTg5MjdlMTI3MS1NYjhhOWE0MDM2MWU5ZTFlMjZkM2I1?= =?UTF-8?B?MDlmPg==?= List-Help: List-Id: "9fans" <9fans.9fans.net> List-Post: List-Software: Topicbox v0 List-Subscribe: Precedence: list Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: , Topicbox-Delivery-ID: 2:9fans:437d30aa-c441-11e9-8a57-d036212d11b0:522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa:Mb8a9a40361e9e1e26d3b509f:1:0eXY-bXszwm_THtDdOOw7ES_y41H53jQpVaCgBT7MQo --000000000000a0b50806162ee5db Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yes, sorry, mistyped on a phone On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 at 04:24, wrote: > Charles Forsyth wrote: > > > > And, if I hear about it being > > > =E2=80=9Cdeclarative=E2=80=9D as a virtue, I point to the 81,000+ lin= es (and > > > growing) of YAML, that I defy any one human to comprehend. > > > > > > You might find help in culang.org >=20 > DNS can't seem to find that for me .... >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Arnold ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T51f7f5a8927e1271-Mb8a9a= 40361e9e1e26d3b509f Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription --000000000000a0b50806162ee5db Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
yes, sorry, mistyped on a phone

On Tue, 16 Ap= r 2024 at 04:24, <arnold@skeeve.com= > wrote:
charles.forsyth@gmail.com> wrote:

> >  And, if I hear about it being
> > “declarative” as a virtue, I point to the 81,000+ lin= es (and
> > growing) of YAML, that I defy any one human to comprehend.
>
>
> You might find help in culang.org

DNS can't seem to find that for me ....

Thanks,

Arnold

------------------------------------------
9fans: 9fans
Permalink: https:= //9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T51f7f5a8927e1271-M6b93f78a60388d81a74a24= 67
Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/gro= ups/9fans/subscription
= --000000000000a0b50806162ee5db--