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Mon, 23 May 2022 07:41:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <85923658-21e8-417c-3fbc-fe7530bdee18@SDF.ORG> In-Reply-To: From: Charles Forsyth Date: Mon, 23 May 2022 15:41:29 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [9fans] Aarch64 on labs|9legacy? To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0000000000008dd70405dfaed67d Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: 79be0c6a-daa6-11ec-9131-a03d4843ab6e Archived-At: =?UTF-8?B?PGh0dHBzOi8vOWZhbnMudG9waWNib3guY29tL2dyb3Vwcy85?= =?UTF-8?B?ZmFucy9UMDAwYzdmN2Q2NjI2MGJhMy1NODYwN2Y5NzdiYjJhYzFlZWJmNmU3?= =?UTF-8?B?YTY5Pg==?= List-Help: List-Id: "9fans" <9fans.9fans.net> List-Post: List-Software: Topicbox v0 List-Subscribe: Precedence: list Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: , Topicbox-Delivery-ID: 2:9fans:437d30aa-c441-11e9-8a57-d036212d11b0:522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa:M8607f977bb2ac1eebf6e7a69:1:uMLVhTgO2ipTB89I0HaeGVTQb7mS2s2KrgJlsi1vNng --0000000000008dd70405dfaed67d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm sorry that my original terse reply, which was well meant, stirred up a hornet's nest. I simply didn't know that it wasn't to be found in the two distributions you mentioned (I did know it was certainly in 9front). On Sun, 22 May 2022 at 19:18, Charles Forsyth wrote: > You enquired about support for an architecture within Plan 9 on a Plan 9 > list so the context was clear and I reply with the relevant architecture > string to help you locate it, but get a little lecture about Arm's naming > scheme (come to think of it, what are Thumb-1 and Thumb-2 called?). Next > time, I'll insist on the 27B/6. > > On Fri, 20 May 2022, 22:27 adr, wrote: > >> On Fri, 20 May 2022, Charles Forsyth wrote: >> >> > Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 21:34:05 +0100 >> > From: Charles Forsyth >> > Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> >> > To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> >> > Subject: Re: [9fans] Aarch64 on labs|9legacy? >> > >> > It's called arm64 >>=20 >> From >> https://developer.arm.com/documentation/den0024/a/Introduction?lang=3Den >>=20 >> "AArch64 is the name used to describe the 64-bit execution state >> of the ARMv8 architecture. AArch32 describes the 32-bit execution >> state of the ARMv8 architecture, which is almost identical to ARMv7. >> GNU and Linux documentation (except for Redhat and Fedora distributions) >> sometimes refers to AArch64 as ARM64." >>=20 >> I would agree that you could use the therm ARM64 as a synonym of >> Aarch64, but giving me just that response... 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I'm sorry that my original terse reply, wh= ich was well meant, stirred up a hornet's nest.
I simply didn't= know that it wasn't to be found in the two distributions you ment= ioned
(I did know it was certainly in 9front).

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On Sun, 22 = May 2022 at 19:18, Charles Forsyth <charles.forsyth@gmail.com> wrote:
You enquired about su= pport for an architecture within Plan 9 on a Plan 9 list so the context was= clear and I reply with the relevant architecture string to help you locate= it, but get a little lecture about Arm's naming scheme (come to think = of it, what are Thumb-1 and Thumb-2 called?). Next time, I'll insist on= the 27B/6.

On Fri, 20 May 2022, 22:27 adr, <adr@sdf.org> wrote:
On Fri, 20 May 2022, Charles Forsyth wr= ote:

> Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 21:34:05 +0100
> From: Charles Forsyth <charles.forsyth@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net>
> To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net>
> Subject: Re: [9fans] Aarch64 on labs|9legacy?
>
> It's called arm64

>From https://deve= loper.arm.com/documentation/den0024/a/Introduction?lang=3Den

"AArch64 is the name used to describe the 64-bit execution state
of the ARMv8 architecture. AArch32 describes the 32-bit execution
state of the ARMv8 architecture, which is almost identical to ARMv7.
GNU and Linux documentation (except for Redhat and Fedora distributions) sometimes refers to AArch64 as ARM64."

I would agree that you could use the therm ARM64 as a synonym of
Aarch64, but giving me just that response... It isn't even funny.
=
adr.

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