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From: Charles Forsyth <charles.forsyth@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] ken cc for linux
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 15:23:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOw7k5iJ4QG-gH=QBYSuHD8cc1vLF4XagTY+1OEfj54qFwhkNA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOw7k5jV-Vdb0+KhADgGCLRS5AeHVGPnor6JqzXdJ4pDqntrtg@mail.gmail.com>

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On 12 March 2015 at 10:06, Charles Forsyth <charles.forsyth@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I've used it and lib9 in several other projects where other compilers
> couldn't be used for licensing reasons, or because they were awful.
>

I'll add that the compilers are great for kernel and other New World
systems work.
Once stable on a given platform, they've been quite robust (I never suspect
them at the start as a bug cause).
Code quality is rarely a bottleneck for systems work in my experience
(and there's a good reason that removing -O3 is a way to fix bugs with
other compilers).
If I were writing scientific computation, I wouldn't use C anyway, but if I
did, I'd worry
much more about the effectiveness of optimisation. For systems work? It's
really, really low on the list.
The cross-module type checking has also spotted a few things that every
other compiler missed.

Cross-compilation is easy and precise, with next to no configuration
required,
unlike nearly all the others; I rely on that a lot. It's worth the price of
entry for that alone, for me,
having suffered with gcc on an old OS project of mine; I'd never use it
again for anything new.
(Obviously I still use gcc for the 8 hour[!] Linux kernel compiles and
builds.)

lcc used to include all the code generators, so I suppose that would be
just as good, except
that it spits out assembly and you have to rely on external components,
which still leaves you cross when attempting
to cross-compile.

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-12 15:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-11 20:30 Aharon Robbins
2015-03-11 20:34 ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2015-03-11 21:04 ` Ryan Gonzalez
2015-03-11 21:54   ` Quintile
2015-03-11 23:04     ` Ryan Gonzalez
2015-03-11 23:19       ` Steve Simon
2015-03-12  6:39         ` arnold
2015-03-13  1:31     ` erik quanstrom
2015-03-13 13:24       ` Charles Forsyth
2015-03-13 17:59         ` Ryan Gonzalez
2015-03-13 18:19           ` Kurt H Maier
2015-03-19 15:35             ` Jeff Sickel
2015-03-19 16:09               ` [9fans] using git arnold
2015-03-19 16:22                 ` Stanley Lieber
2015-03-19 16:34                 ` Charles Forsyth
2015-03-19 16:36                   ` Charles Forsyth
2015-03-19 16:39                     ` Federico Benavento
2015-04-03 18:46                       ` Jeff Sickel
2015-03-19 18:03                   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2015-03-19 20:30                     ` Jeff Sickel
2015-03-19 21:46                       ` Skip Tavakkolian
2015-03-19 21:54                         ` Devon H. O'Dell
2015-03-20  1:02                           ` Kurt H Maier
2015-03-19 18:26                   ` arnold
2015-03-28 11:14                     ` Charles Forsyth
2015-03-28 14:00                       ` Paul Lalonde
2015-03-30  9:48                         ` Giacomo Tesio
2015-03-30  9:55                           ` Giacomo Tesio
2015-03-30 16:16                             ` Jeff Sickel
2015-03-30 19:47                               ` Stanley Lieber
2015-03-30 20:41                                 ` Bakul Shah
2015-03-30 20:20                               ` Giacomo Tesio
2015-03-30 20:32                                 ` Ryan Gonzalez
2015-03-31  3:17                                 ` arnold
2015-03-19 17:00                 ` Jeff Sickel
2015-03-19 17:36                   ` Ori Bernstein
2015-03-12  8:50   ` [9fans] ken cc for linux Aram Hăvărneanu
2015-03-12 17:53     ` Ryan Gonzalez
2015-03-12  8:51   ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2015-03-12 10:06     ` Charles Forsyth
2015-03-12 15:23       ` Charles Forsyth [this message]
2015-03-12 15:41         ` Brantley Coile
2015-03-12 17:14           ` Charles Forsyth
2015-03-13  1:28             ` erik quanstrom
2015-03-12 17:52     ` Ryan Gonzalez

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