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From: Charles Forsyth <charles.forsyth@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Spectre and Meltdown
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 22:48:40 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOw7k5iRB++oVdYaxUV68+GGRVajRPkTN=nLFLOMV5ce4KfXwg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <188F69327A86275BA90105F31906A720@felloff.net>

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If Intel sells you lemons, make lemonade (ok, ok, at least a whiskey sour).
I myself welcome our new speculative overlords, and look forward to new
interesting predictions, and perhaps even a renewed interest in
single-address space systems, since that's what we've got.

On 10 January 2018 at 21:43, <cinap_lenrek@felloff.net> wrote:

> > all binaries on any repo (9p.io, 9front.org, bell-labs.com) are taken on
> > faith to be safe; but it applies there too.
> > does anyone read all the various rc scripts carefully?
>
> how's that comparable? the broken promise is that web
> code will be contained in the browser tab so nobody needs
> to trust that code. and we can just run it. that assumption
> is proven over and over again to not be true due to bugs
> in the interpreter and bugs in the massive libraries exposed
> to it and now theres a case where its broken even if there is
> no obvious flaw in the interpreter.
>
> nobody promised, or tried to do that with a plan9 process.
>
> code running in plan9 can do whatever you can do. and
> easily crash the whole system. so you obviouly need to
> be cautous about what you run.
>
> and yes, you should read the code.
>
> --
> cinap
>
>

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-01-10 22:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-10 21:43 cinap_lenrek
2018-01-10 22:46 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2018-01-10 22:48 ` Charles Forsyth [this message]
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2018-01-15 11:26 cinap_lenrek
2018-01-10 20:30 cinap_lenrek
2018-01-10 20:41 ` Erik Quanstrom
2018-01-10 20:48 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2018-01-10 16:59 cinap_lenrek
2018-01-10 19:32 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2018-01-10 19:41   ` Erik Quanstrom
2018-01-10 20:52     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2018-01-10 20:56       ` Erik Quanstrom
2018-01-10 21:30         ` Skip Tavakkolian
2018-01-10 23:46   ` Richard Miller
2018-01-11  0:33     ` Bakul Shah
2018-01-11  0:55     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2018-01-11  9:35       ` hiro
2018-01-11  9:49         ` Rui Carmo
2018-01-11  9:58         ` Richard Miller
2018-01-12 11:45           ` hiro
2018-01-16  0:51             ` Jules Merit
2018-01-16  1:16               ` Jules Merit
2018-01-15  9:57 ` Giacomo Tesio
     [not found] <1911496352.319586.1515073776091.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
2018-01-04 13:49 ` G B
     [not found]   ` <CAJSxfmJ18xgD1thWvT80=o321-qKCEfecYb37gaFyC=CApWvmg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]     ` <CAJSxfmKsqOZVpcGmqEK3ar=h0-z8qn0GvYy_JNH_8x2OztMXrw@mail.gmail.com>
2018-01-10 16:27       ` Skip Tavakkolian

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