From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 11:21:21 -0400 Message-ID: From: OrangeCalx01 To: 9fans@9fans.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Subject: Re: [9fans] java on dis Topicbox-Message-UUID: 49a6b042-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 QSBtYWNoaW5lIGltcGxlbWVudGluZyBhIHZpcnR1YWwgbWFjaGluZSBpbXBsZW1lbnRpbmcgYSB2 aXJ0dWFsIG1hY2hpbmU/IE9oIHRoZSBsYXRlbmN5ISBMb2wuIFdoeSBub3QgaW50ZWdyYXRlIHRo ZSBqdm0gaXRzZWxmIGludG8gZGlzPyA= From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: =?UTF-8?B?QXJhbSBIxIN2xINybmVhbnU=?= Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 18:43:25 +0200 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [9fans] java on dis Topicbox-Message-UUID: 49b8fbb2-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 It is not a machine that emulates a machine, but rather a translator that translates code for one machine to execute on another. -- Aram H=C4=83v=C4=83rneanu From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <3c2730f4c56332f813cb94bd8cadf10c@rei2.9hal> Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 20:01:14 +0200 From: cinap_lenrek@gmx.de To: 9fans@9fans.net In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] java on dis Topicbox-Message-UUID: 49c7f7fc-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 brucee has done this already: http://doc.cat-v.org/inferno/java_on_dis/ -- cinap From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3c2730f4c56332f813cb94bd8cadf10c@rei2.9hal> References: <3c2730f4c56332f813cb94bd8cadf10c@rei2.9hal> Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 19:45:07 +0100 Message-ID: From: Charles Forsyth To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0444e97fca554804db702aa6 Subject: Re: [9fans] java on dis Topicbox-Message-UUID: 49cfb0be-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --f46d0444e97fca554804db702aa6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 That is the basis for the project proposal: starting by bringing that code up to date. Also, the Java side included a ton of Sun proprietary code that can't be used directly. (Probably some of it was open-sourced with Java, but it's still a slog to work it out.) On 28 April 2013 19:01, wrote: > brucee has done this already: > > http://doc.cat-v.org/inferno/java_on_dis/ > > -- > cinap > > --f46d0444e97fca554804db702aa6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That is the basis for the project proposal: starting by br= inging that code up to date.
Also, the Java side included a ton o= f Sun proprietary code that can't be used directly.
(Pr= obably some of it was open-sourced with Java, but it's still a slog to = work it out.)


On 28 A= pril 2013 19:01, <cinap_lenrek@gmx.de> wrote:
brucee has done this already:

htt= p://doc.cat-v.org/inferno/java_on_dis/

--
cinap


--f46d0444e97fca554804db702aa6-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 20:58:11 +0200 From: cinap_lenrek@gmx.de To: 9fans@9fans.net In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] java on dis Topicbox-Message-UUID: 49d6527a-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 yes, didnt read the original proposal where it explicitely links tho the paper. sorry for the noise and good luck. -- cinap From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 08:46:36 +0300 Message-ID: From: Dmitry Kabak To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e011831127394af04db7968db Subject: Re: [9fans] java on dis Topicbox-Message-UUID: 4a525ad2-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --089e011831127394af04db7968db Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yep, as said Aram, this will be actually a converter that converts compiled java classes into pure dis code. And there is also 'jvm' program that would be the class loader and linker, thread monitor and will perform other functions of the original JVM. So, I think that execution speed shouldn't be lower than that of limbo. 2013/4/28 > yes, didnt read the original proposal where it explicitely links > tho the paper. sorry for the noise and good luck. > > -- > cinap > > -- Regards, Dmitry Kabak --089e011831127394af04db7968db Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yep, as said Aram, this will be actually a converter that = converts compiled java classes into pure dis code. And there is also 'j= vm' program that would be the class loader and linker, thread monitor a= nd will perform other functions of the original JVM. So, I think that execu= tion speed shouldn't be lower than that of limbo.


2013/4/= 28 <cinap_lenrek@gmx.de>

--
Regards,
Dmitry Kaba= k
--089e011831127394af04db7968db-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 08:58:05 +0200 From: Marc Chantreux To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Message-ID: <20130429065805.GA3401@toad> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: [9fans] java on dis Topicbox-Message-UUID: 4a6fe728-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 hello, On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 11:21:21AM -0400, OrangeCalx01 wrote: > A machine implementing a virtual machine implementing a virtual machine? Oh > the latency! Lol. Why not integrate the jvm itself into dis? I really don't know about virtual machines and maybe it's a stupid question but i'm really currious about it and i really trust the plan9 expertise: why not port inferno on top of the jvm? is this a technical nonsense? is there some performance/ressources issue or is it just an NIH manifestation? regards From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20130429065805.GA3401@toad> References: <20130429065805.GA3401@toad> From: Sergey Zhilkin Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 12:07:47 +0400 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013a0200a0bcd304db7b62f1 Subject: Re: [9fans] java on dis Topicbox-Message-UUID: 4a7b32b8-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --089e013a0200a0bcd304db7b62f1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There is http://www.vitanuova.com/dist/java.tgz - old java translating software. It's not legaly free. I think, Charles knows more :) 2013/4/29 Marc Chantreux > hello, > > On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 11:21:21AM -0400, OrangeCalx01 wrote: > > A machine implementing a virtual machine implementing a virtual machine= ? > Oh > > the latency! Lol. Why not integrate the jvm itself into dis? > > I really don't know about virtual machines and maybe it's a stupid > question but i'm really currious about it and i really trust the plan9 > expertise: why not port inferno on top of the jvm? is this a technical > nonsense? is there some performance/ressources issue or is it just an NIH > manifestation? > > regards > > --=20 =D0=A1 =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=B8=D0=BB=D1=83=D1=87=D1=88=D0=B8=D0=BC=D0=B8 =D0=BF= =D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=B5=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=8F=D0=BC=D0=B8 =D0=96=D0=B8=D0=BB=D0=BA=D0=B8=D0=BD =D0=A1=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B3=D0=B5=D0=B9 With best regards Zhilkin Sergey --089e013a0200a0bcd304db7b62f1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
There is http://www.vitanuova.com/dist/java.tgz - old java translating so= ftware. It's not legaly free.
I think, Charles knows more :) =


2013/4/= 29 Marc Chantreux <khatar@phear.org>
hello,

On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 11:21:21AM -0400, OrangeCalx01 wrote:
> A machine implementing a virtual machine implementing a virtual machin= e? Oh
> the latency! Lol. Why not integrate the jvm itself into dis?

I really don't know about virtual machines and maybe it's a s= tupid
question but i'm really currious about it and i really trust the plan9<= br> expertise: why not port inferno on top of the jvm? is this a technical
nonsense? is there some performance/ressources issue or is it just an NIH manifestation?

regards




--
=D0=A1 =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0= =B8=D0=BB=D1=83=D1=87=D1=88=D0=B8=D0=BC=D0=B8 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=B5=D0= =BB=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=8F=D0=BC=D0=B8
=D0=96=D0=B8=D0=BB=D0=BA=D0=B8= =D0=BD =D0=A1=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B3=D0=B5=D0=B9
With best regards
Zhilkin= Sergey
--089e013a0200a0bcd304db7b62f1-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20130429065805.GA3401@toad> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 19:47:21 +1000 Message-ID: From: Bruce Ellis To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d041825bc72d5a004db7cc592 Subject: Re: [9fans] java on dis Topicbox-Message-UUID: 4a82debe-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --f46d041825bc72d5a004db7cc592 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable when this thread calms down a bit i'll post some suggestions and hopefully helpful hints - one of which is that there will be tears. i'll respond to off list technical questions. brucee On 29 April 2013 18:07, Sergey Zhilkin wrote: > There is http://www.vitanuova.com/dist/java.tgz - old java translating > software. It's not legaly free. > I think, Charles knows more :) > > > 2013/4/29 Marc Chantreux > >> hello, >> >> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 11:21:21AM -0400, OrangeCalx01 wrote: >> > A machine implementing a virtual machine implementing a virtual >> machine? Oh >> > the latency! Lol. Why not integrate the jvm itself into dis? >> >> I really don't know about virtual machines and maybe it's a stupid >> question but i'm really currious about it and i really trust the plan9 >> expertise: why not port inferno on top of the jvm? is this a technical >> nonsense? is there some performance/ressources issue or is it just an NI= H >> manifestation? >> >> regards >> >> > > > -- > =D0=A1 =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=B8=D0=BB=D1=83=D1=87=D1=88=D0=B8=D0=BC=D0=B8 =D0= =BF=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=B5=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=8F=D0=BC=D0=B8 > =D0=96=D0=B8=D0=BB=D0=BA=D0=B8=D0=BD =D0=A1=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B3=D0=B5=D0=B9 > With best regards > Zhilkin Sergey > --f46d041825bc72d5a004db7cc592 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
when this thread calms down a bit i'll post some sugge= stions and hopefully helpful hints - one of which is that there will be tea= rs.

i'll respond to off list technical questio= ns.

brucee


On 29 April 2013 18:07, Sergey Zhilkin= <szhilkin@gmail.com> wrote:
There is http://www.vitanuov= a.com/dist/java.tgz - old java translating software. It's not legal= y free.
I think, Charles knows more :)


2013/4/29 Marc Chantreux <khatar@phear.org><= br>
hello,

On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 11:21:21AM -0400, OrangeCalx01 wrote:
> A machine implementing a virtual machine implementing a virtual machin= e? Oh
> the latency! Lol. Why not integrate the jvm itself into dis?

I really don't know about virtual machines and maybe it's a s= tupid
question but i'm really currious about it and i really trust the plan9<= br> expertise: why not port inferno on top of the jvm? is this a technical
nonsense? is there some performance/ressources issue or is it just an NIH manifestation?

regards




--
=D0=A1 =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=B8=D0=BB=D1=83= =D1=87=D1=88=D0=B8=D0=BC=D0=B8 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=B5=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=BD= =D0=B8=D1=8F=D0=BC=D0=B8
=D0=96=D0=B8=D0=BB=D0=BA=D0=B8=D0=BD =D0=A1=D0= =B5=D1=80=D0=B3=D0=B5=D0=B9
With best regards
Zhilkin Sergey

--f46d041825bc72d5a004db7cc592-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20130429065805.GA3401@toad> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 14:15:47 +0300 Message-ID: From: Dmitry Kabak To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e010d8510ac29f704db7e0131 Subject: Re: [9fans] java on dis Topicbox-Message-UUID: 4a8be9aa-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --089e010d8510ac29f704db7e0131 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, I didn't know that sources exist. But anyway, my work is still really relevant because of the need to update lots of sources to support latest Java and Inferno. And also to make the whole thing open-sourced, as the code you posted contains scaring lines like: This software is provided SOLELY for experiment and evaluation. NO PORTION may be distributed in ANY FORM, or used commercially, without executing appropriate licences with Vita Nuova and possibly, for some portions, Sun Microsystems Inc. Vita Nuova can advise on the latter once evaluation is complete 2013/4/29 Sergey Zhilkin > There is http://www.vitanuova.com/dist/java.tgz - old java translating > software. It's not legaly free. > I think, Charles knows more :) > > > 2013/4/29 Marc Chantreux > >> hello, >> >> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 11:21:21AM -0400, OrangeCalx01 wrote: >> > A machine implementing a virtual machine implementing a virtual >> machine? Oh >> > the latency! Lol. Why not integrate the jvm itself into dis? >> >> I really don't know about virtual machines and maybe it's a stupid >> question but i'm really currious about it and i really trust the plan9 >> expertise: why not port inferno on top of the jvm? is this a technical >> nonsense? is there some performance/ressources issue or is it just an NI= H >> manifestation? >> >> regards >> >> > > > -- > =F3 =CE=C1=C9=CC=D5=DE=DB=C9=CD=C9 =D0=CF=D6=C5=CC=C1=CE=C9=D1=CD=C9 > =F6=C9=CC=CB=C9=CE =F3=C5=D2=C7=C5=CA > With best regards > Zhilkin Sergey > --=20 Regards, Dmitry Kabak --089e010d8510ac29f704db7e0131 Content-Type: text/html; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey, I didn't know that sources exist. But anyway, my = work is still really relevant because of the need to update lots of sources= to support latest Java and Inferno. And also to make the whole thing open-= sourced, as the code you posted contains scaring lines like:

This software is provided SOLELY for experiment and evaluation.
NO P= ORTION may be distributed in ANY FORM, or used commercially,
without exe= cuting appropriate licences with Vita Nuova and possibly,
for some porti= ons, Sun Microsystems Inc. Vita Nuova can advise on the
latter once evaluation is complete


2013/4/29 Sergey Zhilkin <szhilkin@gmail.com= >
The= re is = http://www.vitanuova.com/dist/java.tgz - old java translating software.= It's not legaly free.
I think, Charles knows more :)


2013/4/29 Marc Chantreux <khatar@phear.org><= br>
hello,

On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 11:21:21AM -0400, OrangeCalx01 wrote:
> A machine implementing a virtual machine implementing a virtual machin= e? Oh
> the latency! Lol. Why not integrate the jvm itself into dis?

I really don't know about virtual machines and maybe it's a s= tupid
question but i'm really currious about it and i really trust the plan9<= br> expertise: why not port inferno on top of the jvm? is this a technical
nonsense? is there some performance/ressources issue or is it just an NIH manifestation?

regards




<= font color=3D"#888888">--
=F3 =CE=C1=C9=CC=D5=DE=DB=C9=CD=C9 =D0=CF=D6= =C5=CC=C1=CE=C9=D1=CD=C9
=F6=C9=CC=CB=C9=CE =F3=C5=D2=C7=C5=CA
With b= est regards
Zhilkin Sergey



--
Regards,
Dmitry Kaba= k
--089e010d8510ac29f704db7e0131-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20130429065805.GA3401@toad> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 14:22:00 +0300 Message-ID: From: Dmitry Kabak To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01634fdae8c3f204db7e17ad Subject: Re: [9fans] java on dis Topicbox-Message-UUID: 4a96e666-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --089e01634fdae8c3f204db7e17ad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm happy to see the original author of that project here! Looking at sources I've already realized that there will be some tears, but I'm absolutely ready for long hours of really-low-level code, awful debugging and strange and mystical things :) Looking forward for your questions and suggestions! 2013/4/29 Bruce Ellis > when this thread calms down a bit i'll post some suggestions and hopefull= y > helpful hints - one of which is that there will be tears. > > i'll respond to off list technical questions. > > brucee > > > On 29 April 2013 18:07, Sergey Zhilkin wrote: > >> There is http://www.vitanuova.com/dist/java.tgz - old java translating >> software. It's not legaly free. >> I think, Charles knows more :) >> >> >> 2013/4/29 Marc Chantreux >> >>> hello, >>> >>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 11:21:21AM -0400, OrangeCalx01 wrote: >>> > A machine implementing a virtual machine implementing a virtual >>> machine? Oh >>> > the latency! Lol. Why not integrate the jvm itself into dis? >>> >>> I really don't know about virtual machines and maybe it's a stupid >>> question but i'm really currious about it and i really trust the plan9 >>> expertise: why not port inferno on top of the jvm? is this a technical >>> nonsense? is there some performance/ressources issue or is it just an N= IH >>> manifestation? >>> >>> regards >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> =F3 =CE=C1=C9=CC=D5=DE=DB=C9=CD=C9 =D0=CF=D6=C5=CC=C1=CE=C9=D1=CD=C9 >> =F6=C9=CC=CB=C9=CE =F3=C5=D2=C7=C5=CA >> With best regards >> Zhilkin Sergey >> > > --=20 Regards, Dmitry Kabak --089e01634fdae8c3f204db7e17ad Content-Type: text/html; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm happy to see the original author of that proj= ect here! Looking at sources I've already realized that there will be s= ome tears, but I'm absolutely ready for long hours of really-low-level = code, awful debugging and strange and mystical things :)
Looking forward for your questions and suggestions!


2013/4/29 Bruce Ellis= <bruce.ellis@gmail.com>
when this thread calms down= a bit i'll post some suggestions and hopefully helpful hints - one of = which is that there will be tears.

i'll respond to off list technical questions.

brucee


On 29 Apri= l 2013 18:07, Sergey Zhilkin <szhilkin@gmail.com> wrote:
There is http://www.vitanuov= a.com/dist/java.tgz - old java translating software. It's not legal= y free.
I think, Charles knows more :)


2013/4/29 Marc Chantreux <khatar@phear.org>
hello,

On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 11:21:21AM -0400, OrangeCalx01 wrote:
> A machine implementing a virtual machine implementing a virtual machin= e? Oh
> the latency! Lol. Why not integrate the jvm itself into dis?

I really don't know about virtual machines and maybe it's a s= tupid
question but i'm really currious about it and i really trust the plan9<= br> expertise: why not port inferno on top of the jvm? is this a technical
nonsense? is there some performance/ressources issue or is it just an NIH manifestation?

regards




--
=F3 =CE=C1=C9=CC=D5=DE=DB=C9=CD=C9 =D0=CF=D6=C5=CC=C1= =CE=C9=D1=CD=C9
=F6=C9=CC=CB=C9=CE =F3=C5=D2=C7=C5=CA
With best regar= ds
Zhilkin Sergey




--
Regards,Dmitry Kabak
--089e01634fdae8c3f204db7e17ad-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: erik quanstrom Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 09:39:34 -0400 To: 9fans@9fans.net Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <20130429065805.GA3401@toad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] java on dis Topicbox-Message-UUID: 4adf4942-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Mon Apr 29 07:16:48 EDT 2013, userdima@gmail.com wrote: > Hey, I didn't know that sources exist. But anyway, my work is still really > relevant because of the need to update lots of sources to support latest > Java and Inferno. And also to make the whole thing open-sourced, as the > code you posted contains scaring lines like: > > This software is provided SOLELY for experiment and evaluation. > NO PORTION may be distributed in ANY FORM, or used commercially, > without executing appropriate licences with Vita Nuova and possibly, > for some portions, Sun Microsystems Inc. Vita Nuova can advise on the > latter once evaluation is complete the first (open source) license must be choosen. gsoc *requires* open source. http://www.vitanuova.com/inferno/licence.html > There is http://www.vitanuova.com/dist/java.tgz - old java translating > software. It's not legaly free. > I think, Charles knows more :) and just to reiterate, if it's not free, it can't be used for gsoc. - erik From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20130429065805.GA3401@toad> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:02:47 +0100 Message-ID: From: Charles Forsyth To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d041c40d2e860c904db805665 Subject: Re: [9fans] java on dis Topicbox-Message-UUID: 4aec581c-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --f46d041c40d2e860c904db805665 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 29 April 2013 09:07, Sergey Zhilkin wrote: > . It's not legaly free. Dmitry already has a copy of the parts that are free. --f46d041c40d2e860c904db805665 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8

On 29 April 2013 09:07, Sergey Zhilkin <szhilkin@gmail.com> wrote:
. It's not legaly free.

Dmitry already has a copy of the parts that are free.
--f46d041c40d2e860c904db805665-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20130429065805.GA3401@toad> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:05:35 +0100 Message-ID: From: Charles Forsyth To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d041c40d2f929dc04db806013 Subject: Re: [9fans] java on dis Topicbox-Message-UUID: 4af48014-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --f46d041c40d2f929dc04db806013 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 29 April 2013 15:02, Charles Forsyth wrote: > Dmitry already has a copy of the parts that are free. and so does everyone else: >I put it on inferno-j2d.googlecode.com ... several months ago (it was announced on the inferno list). That's the basis for potential GSoC work. --f46d041c40d2f929dc04db806013 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On 29 April 2013 15:02, Charles Forsyth <charles.forsyth@gmail.com= > wrote:
Dmitry already has a copy of the parts that are free.

and so does everyone else:=C2=A0

<= span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"= >>I put it on=C2=A0in= ferno-j2d.googlecode.com=C2=A0...

several months ago (it was announced on = the inferno list). That's the basis for potential GSoC work.
--f46d041c40d2f929dc04db806013-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20130429065805.GA3401@toad> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:18:59 +0100 Message-ID: From: Charles Forsyth To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51b9f81e4cd5404db809087 Subject: Re: [9fans] java on dis Topicbox-Message-UUID: 4afb2aa4-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --bcaec51b9f81e4cd5404db809087 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 29 April 2013 15:05, Charles Forsyth wrote: > >I put it on inferno-j2d.googlecode.com ... > > several months ago (it was announced on the inferno list). > Dmitry had asked about it then, and having looked at it for the first time in years, I realised it had some interesting code to study, and if anyone was keen enough to try to get it going, there was no reason to be obstructive. (It's not a trivial task, because I had to remove the Sun code and the JVM has changed, amongst other hurdles.) Most or all of that Sun code will be in the open-source Java, but I had no time to work that out. I left empty files to help track them down. --bcaec51b9f81e4cd5404db809087 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On 29 April 2013 15:05, Charles Forsyth <charles.forsyth@gmail.com= > wrote:
>I put it on=C2=A0inferno-j= 2d.googlecode.com=C2= =A0...

several months ago (it was announced on the inferno list).

Dmitry had asked about it then, and having looked at= it for the first time in years, I realised it had some interesting code to= study,
and if anyone was keen enough= to try to get it going, there was no reason to be obstructive.
(It's not a trivial task, because I ha= d to remove the Sun code and the JVM has changed, amongst other hurdles.)
Most or all of that Sun code will be i= n the open-source Java, but I had no time to work that out. I left empty fi= les to help track them down.
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