* acme, upas commits @ 2014-05-13 11:11 Alexander Sychev 2014-05-13 12:23 ` quanstro 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Alexander Sychev @ 2014-05-13 11:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: plan9port-dev, Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 824 bytes --] Hi, I have commited some changes in my experimental fork of plan9port. https://bitbucket.org/santucco/plan9port For acme I made thread safe processing of regular expressions (actually by creating some context). For upas/nfs I made a monitoring of all mailboxes and a decoding of international names of mailboxes. I'm living with these changes for some time, they are working. P.S. By the way, new log feature is excellent, it's a time to make more applications for acme :-) -- Best regards, santucco -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "plan9port-dev" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to plan9port-dev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1228 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: acme, upas commits 2014-05-13 11:11 acme, upas commits Alexander Sychev @ 2014-05-13 12:23 ` quanstro 2014-05-13 12:34 ` Alexander Sychev 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: quanstro @ 2014-05-13 12:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: plan9port-dev; +Cc: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1122 bytes --] in theory the threads that interact with regular expressions in acme are all cooperatively scheduled. have you seen a case where they are not? did pthreads blow up the model? - erik On Tuesday, May 13, 2014 7:11:02 AM UTC-4, Alexander Sychev wrote: > > Hi, > > I have commited some changes in my experimental fork of plan9port. > https://bitbucket.org/santucco/plan9port > > For acme I made thread safe processing of regular expressions (actually by > creating some context). > For upas/nfs I made a monitoring of all mailboxes and a decoding of > international names of mailboxes. > > I'm living with these changes for some time, they are working. > > P.S. > By the way, new log feature is excellent, it's a time to make more > applications for acme :-) > -- > Best regards, > santucco > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "plan9port-dev" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to plan9port-dev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2079 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: acme, upas commits 2014-05-13 12:23 ` quanstro @ 2014-05-13 12:34 ` Alexander Sychev 2014-05-13 12:44 ` quanstro 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Alexander Sychev @ 2014-05-13 12:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: quanstro; +Cc: plan9port-dev, Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1694 bytes --] There were problems in p9p under linux, when amail makes simultaneous searches in different windows. On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 4:23 PM, quanstro <quanstro@gmail.com> wrote: > in theory the threads that interact with regular expressions in acme > are all cooperatively scheduled. have you seen a case where they > are not? did pthreads blow up the model? > > - erik > > > On Tuesday, May 13, 2014 7:11:02 AM UTC-4, Alexander Sychev wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I have commited some changes in my experimental fork of plan9port. >> https://bitbucket.org/santucco/plan9port >> >> For acme I made thread safe processing of regular expressions (actually >> by creating some context). >> For upas/nfs I made a monitoring of all mailboxes and a decoding of >> international names of mailboxes. >> >> I'm living with these changes for some time, they are working. >> >> P.S. >> By the way, new log feature is excellent, it's a time to make more >> applications for acme :-) >> -- >> Best regards, >> santucco >> > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "plan9port-dev" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to plan9port-dev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Best regards, santucco -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "plan9port-dev" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to plan9port-dev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2845 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: acme, upas commits 2014-05-13 12:34 ` Alexander Sychev @ 2014-05-13 12:44 ` quanstro 2014-05-13 13:34 ` Alexander Sychev 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: quanstro @ 2014-05-13 12:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: plan9port-dev; +Cc: quanstro, Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1965 bytes --] did you track down why the unexpected concurrency was happening? this could result in other bugs as well. - erik On Tuesday, May 13, 2014 8:34:29 AM UTC-4, Alexander Sychev wrote: > > There were problems in p9p under linux, when amail makes simultaneous > searches in different windows. > > > On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 4:23 PM, quanstro <quan...@gmail.com <javascript:> > > wrote: > >> in theory the threads that interact with regular expressions in acme >> are all cooperatively scheduled. have you seen a case where they >> are not? did pthreads blow up the model? >> >> - erik >> >> >> On Tuesday, May 13, 2014 7:11:02 AM UTC-4, Alexander Sychev wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have commited some changes in my experimental fork of plan9port. >>> https://bitbucket.org/santucco/plan9port >>> >>> For acme I made thread safe processing of regular expressions (actually >>> by creating some context). >>> For upas/nfs I made a monitoring of all mailboxes and a decoding of >>> international names of mailboxes. >>> >>> I'm living with these changes for some time, they are working. >>> >>> P.S. >>> By the way, new log feature is excellent, it's a time to make more >>> applications for acme :-) >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> santucco >>> >> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "plan9port-dev" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to plan9port-de...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > santucco > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "plan9port-dev" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to plan9port-dev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 3920 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: acme, upas commits 2014-05-13 12:44 ` quanstro @ 2014-05-13 13:34 ` Alexander Sychev 2014-05-13 13:58 ` quanstro 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Alexander Sychev @ 2014-05-13 13:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: quanstro; +Cc: plan9port-dev, Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2680 bytes --] Are there other similar bugs? Actually, I was digging only the amail's problem. Now I can't recall all details (it was few months ago), but I had saw parallel calls of regexp functions without any lock and I thought it should be such way. On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 4:44 PM, quanstro <quanstro@gmail.com> wrote: > did you track down why the unexpected concurrency was happening? this > could result in other bugs as well. > > - erik > > > On Tuesday, May 13, 2014 8:34:29 AM UTC-4, Alexander Sychev wrote: > >> There were problems in p9p under linux, when amail makes simultaneous >> searches in different windows. >> >> >> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 4:23 PM, quanstro <quan...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> in theory the threads that interact with regular expressions in acme >>> are all cooperatively scheduled. have you seen a case where they >>> are not? did pthreads blow up the model? >>> >>> - erik >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, May 13, 2014 7:11:02 AM UTC-4, Alexander Sychev wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I have commited some changes in my experimental fork of plan9port. >>>> https://bitbucket.org/santucco/plan9port >>>> >>>> For acme I made thread safe processing of regular expressions (actually >>>> by creating some context). >>>> For upas/nfs I made a monitoring of all mailboxes and a decoding of >>>> international names of mailboxes. >>>> >>>> I'm living with these changes for some time, they are working. >>>> >>>> P.S. >>>> By the way, new log feature is excellent, it's a time to make more >>>> applications for acme :-) >>>> -- >>>> Best regards, >>>> santucco >>>> >>> -- >>> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "plan9port-dev" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to plan9port-de...@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> santucco >> > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "plan9port-dev" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to plan9port-dev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Best regards, santucco -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "plan9port-dev" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to plan9port-dev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 4522 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: acme, upas commits 2014-05-13 13:34 ` Alexander Sychev @ 2014-05-13 13:58 ` quanstro 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: quanstro @ 2014-05-13 13:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: plan9port-dev; +Cc: quanstro, Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3500 bytes --] right. as i mentioned, the structure of acme had been to keep all the threads that might otherwise need locking in the same proc so as to use cooperative multitasking to avoid the need for explicit locking. therefore, i would not expect this bug to happen unless this code is either somehow exceptional, or acme was working in to procs when it should not be, or perhaps threads are not as cooperative as they might be. without resolution on this issue, it would seem likely that other bugs are lurking. even if they have not yet been found. that is, it might be that a more systemic fix may be necessary. - erik On Tuesday, May 13, 2014 9:34:17 AM UTC-4, Alexander Sychev wrote: > > Are there other similar bugs? > > Actually, I was digging only the amail's problem. > Now I can't recall all details (it was few months ago), but I had saw > parallel calls of regexp functions without any lock and I thought it should > be such way. > > > On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 4:44 PM, quanstro <quan...@gmail.com <javascript:> > > wrote: > >> did you track down why the unexpected concurrency was happening? this >> could result in other bugs as well. >> >> - erik >> >> >> On Tuesday, May 13, 2014 8:34:29 AM UTC-4, Alexander Sychev wrote: >> >>> There were problems in p9p under linux, when amail makes simultaneous >>> searches in different windows. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 4:23 PM, quanstro <quan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> in theory the threads that interact with regular expressions in acme >>>> are all cooperatively scheduled. have you seen a case where they >>>> are not? did pthreads blow up the model? >>>> >>>> - erik >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, May 13, 2014 7:11:02 AM UTC-4, Alexander Sychev wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I have commited some changes in my experimental fork of plan9port. >>>>> https://bitbucket.org/santucco/plan9port >>>>> >>>>> For acme I made thread safe processing of regular expressions >>>>> (actually by creating some context). >>>>> For upas/nfs I made a monitoring of all mailboxes and a decoding of >>>>> international names of mailboxes. >>>>> >>>>> I'm living with these changes for some time, they are working. >>>>> >>>>> P.S. >>>>> By the way, new log feature is excellent, it's a time to make more >>>>> applications for acme :-) >>>>> -- >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> santucco >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "plan9port-dev" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to plan9port-de...@googlegroups.com. >>>> >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> santucco >>> >> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "plan9port-dev" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to plan9port-de...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > santucco > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "plan9port-dev" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to plan9port-dev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 6300 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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