On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 8:19 AM, Andrés Domínguez wrote: > D​​o they really make open hardware? In what aspect > is their hardware more open than any other laptop? Hi, A summary would bet hat typically the hardware drivers that are run on a computer come in two possible forms, either closed source or open source. A closed source driver, a binary blob, would have an externally documented API but nothing telling you what is going on inside the API to drive the hardware, it's a black box from our perspective, and of course it's an executable targeted at a specific OS such as Windows, or on the rare occasion Linux. An alternative is open source. Either the manufacturer is releasing the source code for the driver or they are documenting the details of the hardware internals and making it openly available, so that someone with motivation can write an open source driver. So I think that leaves us with three possible states for the components of a computer: 1. Undocumented hardware, and the manufacturer releases a black-box binary blob to drive it for a specific set of operating system. 2. Fully documented hardware, and someone has written an open source driver for the hardware. In some cases this a "white room" situation where one person signs an NDA in order to get the documents but are then allowed to release a freely available driver (I think this is the case with a few driver used in Linux on the Raspberry Pi). 3. Fully documented hardware and paired with an open source driver for the hardware from the manufacturer. I was having a discussion with someone about a variant of this issue a month ago. They planned to write a driver for a piece of hardware, but the ideal situation of the hardware specification being available was not the case. However, a Linux open source driver was available, so he thought he'd be able to examine that and reverse engineer it for Plan 9. Jim