I see several threads about how people are cloning their Venti servers to remote Venti servers as a means of creating a backup. Reading over the man pages, I assume it's also possible to do something like use rdarena to dump an arena out, encrypt it, and put the encrypted arena into a remote service like Amazon S3. On my Mac OS X machine I use something called Arq that can store the data in Amazon Glacier, which is an ideal fit for true "disaster scenario" backups (vs. day-to-day backups you might need to access on some regular frequency). However, I see some emails warning about using rdarena/wrarena versus simply copying a fossil, so I'm wondering if there are issues I'm not picking up from my reading of the man pages. I can also see there are various threads complaining about the stability of venti+fossil, but then there are others saying it's stable and works great. Jim