From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Message-id: From: Pietro Gagliardi To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> In-reply-to: <5d375e920806291938nc380fb4j5574ca10dc83f61b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:06:19 -0400 References: <5d375e920806291938nc380fb4j5574ca10dc83f61b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] sad commentary Topicbox-Message-UUID: ccfac2a8-ead3-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 People do acknowledge the new free systems. Unfortunately, RMS got them off it in a microsecond when 3e came out: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/plan-nine.html And I don't believe the Note at the top will change people's minds. And even if we do manage to make people remember Plan 9, we live in a world ruled by the standard set up by Windows 95. Even Mac OS X seems influenced (the three buttons scenario - take a look at that "Ah, minimalism" if you don't use that system). If people say "Plan 9 is too hard to use" they will allocate blame to Rob Pike's rio before reading his tirade on other windowing systems (which you can find at http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/doc/88/1-07.ps.gz) . And I don't think they would be open to using Inferno, where the windowing system has to be started manually and each and every program isn't available from that menu. I'm not complaining, though - I like them both - but I'm warning you. On Jun 29, 2008, at 10:38 PM, Uriel wrote: > No, slashdot has not slipped (but then, I stopped reading it a few > years ago, and the comments there have always been most depressing). > > But the world has pretty much forgotten Plan 9 even exists (and lets > not even mention Inferno). In a story about 9vx in reddit.com (where > supposedly all the cool kids hang out this days) somebody mentioned > 'last I got interested in Plan 9 you had to pay a few hundred bucks to > get a copy' (or something to that effect). > > So, that is what anti-propaganda brings you, but at least you don't > have to deal with clueless users... oh wait, never mind. > > uriel > > On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 4:21 AM, erik quanstrom > wrote: >> this slashdot article almost asks for cpu >> functionality for plan 9 by name. >> >> http://ask.slashdot.org/askslashdot/08/06/29/1417247.shtml >> >> not a single mention of plan 9. i hope >> this is an indication that slashdot has >> slipped. >> >> screens? 1978 called and wants its >> terminal server mentality back. >> >> - erik >> >> >