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Wed, 23 Jun 2021 19:58:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from unobe@cpan.org) Message-ID: To: 9fans@9fans.net Subject: Re: [9fans] p9f mention of 9front From: Romano Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2021 16:58:47 -0700 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Pobox-Relay-ID: F4C0718E-D47E-11EB-89A2-FA9E2DDBB1FC-09620299!pb-smtp21.pobox.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: fa590700-d47e-11eb-92c0-d759d41c2c68 Archived-At: =?UTF-8?B?PGh0dHBzOi8vOWZhbnMudG9waWNib3guY29tL2dyb3Vwcy85?= =?UTF-8?B?ZmFucy9UNTIzZDZlOTA2YTE3YTdjYy1NYWU3NDk2MTQ2MWNiZDExY2MxMTZj?= =?UTF-8?B?OWVlPg==?= List-Help: List-Id: "9fans" <9fans.9fans.net> List-Post: List-Software: Topicbox v0 List-Subscribe: Precedence: list Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> List-Unsubscribe: , Topicbox-Delivery-ID: 2:9fans:437d30aa-c441-11e9-8a57-d036212d11b0:522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa:Mae74961461cbd11cc116c9ee:1:PbRDPtJ1ssPbfLxpG47NSKqKzXdnV4Zu6_xhOCiiN0A Quoth Sigrid Solveig Hafl=C3=ADnud=C3=B3ttir : > Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think anyone had any issues with 9le= gacy taking functionality from 9front, vice versa. So both contain parts of= each other anyway. >=20 > How is 9legacy "more Plan 9", but 9front isn't at all, then? Makes no sen= se to me. Yeah, I don't think there are any issues with cross fertilization of ideas or code. But I don't think that means they're then equivalent. But a fork is different than set of patches. When 9front is self-described as a fork of Plan 9 (from all accounts I've read), isn't that separating from the Plan 9? All the forks I can think of off the top of my head (LibreSSL and BoringSSL from OpenSSL; OpenBSD from NetBSD) certainly share code, but remain separate. In the latter, I can think of PF that was incorporated into NetBSD from OpenBSD even after the fork. Isn't that similar to what you're describing? > Would a mention of a practical fork/distribution/whatever-you-wanna-call-= it really hurt someone's ego that much? I don't know the answer to that question: it's not my ego. But from what I have read on this list it's not just ego that is involved. As I wrote in my last e-mail, I want 9front to be listed on the p9f.org page. But I'm a nobody, so I'm probably not going to persuade anyone. ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T523d6e906a17a7cc-Mae749= 61461cbd11cc116c9ee Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription