From: Bakul Shah <bakul@iitbombay.org>
To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 announcements on twitter
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 01:28:18 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DD1D5D63-9498-4B78-8AA3-9C6133180373@iitbombay.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJQ9t7jAQBa0d14YL4oEOhzDxLHPbfDJhDhYsdt=P5j-MDq=Rw@mail.gmail.com>
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In his Turing Award lecture "The Humber Programmer" he expresses this sentiment.
"the tools we are trying to use and the language or notation we are using to express or record our thoughts, are the major factors determining what we can think or express at all!"
You all may enjoy listening to him!
https://youtu.be/jDvaEiK__B8?list=PL99C1C9F94FB8FA4B&t=127
The above clip is positioned at "Now for the fifth argument." if you just want to read the
relevant paragraph in the transcription below:
https://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/EWD/transcriptions/EWD03xx/EWD340.html
Finally, I very much doubt he would have liked C!
> On Dec 3, 2020, at 12:50 AM, Lucio De Re <lucio.dere@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ewd498 - should suffice for a search.
> cs.utexas.edu/users/EWD/index00xx.html seems an interesting place to look.
>
> And I may have paraphrased Dijkstra more strongly than he would have
> intended, but I'm sure he'll forgive me.
>
> Lucio.
>
> On 12/3/20, Mart Zirnask <martzirnask@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> PS: I concur with the late Dijkstra that the programming language(s)
>>> you learn shape(s) your ability to construct abstractions in your
>>> mind. We're kind of safe for as long as C remains the base language
>>> for development. All bets are off when Objective C takes over.
>>
>> Would you mind posting a link to the manuscript/transcript of the
>> essay where he discusses this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mart
>
>
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2020-11-12 21:36 Skip Tavakkolian
2020-11-13 3:50 ` Lucio De Re
2020-11-13 3:55 ` Don A. Bailey
2020-11-13 3:57 ` Calvin Morrison
2020-11-13 6:31 ` sirjofri+ml-9fans
2020-11-16 0:03 ` [9fans] " cigar562hfsp952fans
2020-11-13 18:45 ` [9fans] " Kim Shrier
2020-11-13 19:05 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2020-11-13 19:09 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2020-11-13 23:23 ` Pouya Tafti
2020-11-16 0:09 ` [9fans] " cigar562hfsp952fans
2020-12-03 3:09 ` cigar562hfsp952fans
2020-12-03 4:01 ` Lucio De Re
2020-12-03 7:25 ` Mart Zirnask
2020-12-03 8:50 ` Lucio De Re
2020-12-03 9:28 ` Bakul Shah [this message]
2020-12-04 9:37 ` [9fans] " Lucio De Re
2020-12-04 13:20 ` hiro
2020-12-05 9:12 ` Lucio De Re
2020-12-05 22:25 ` [9fans] " cigar562hfsp952fans
2020-12-06 3:56 ` Lucio De Re
2020-12-07 4:45 ` Devon H. O'Dell
2020-12-06 19:52 ` Ethan Gardener
2020-12-07 4:28 ` Lucio De Re
2020-11-18 2:34 ` [9fans] " ori
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