From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] sam vs acme From: nigel@9fs.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:10:37 +0100 Topicbox-Message-UUID: bf360c36-eac9-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 The pop up button 2 menu for editing under sam is seemed such an improvement over the tedious point-click point-click stuff necessary to cut or paste text under, say, Windows. Yes, I know that under Windows 98 or better you can get a right button menu (still click point click because it doesn't remember the last action), or generally use the keyboard (cop out). At first I found the lack of a button 2 menu under acme hard but now, when I return to sam from using acme, the lack of chording makes sam seem slow and clunky. I've attempted to use sam as editor of choice under all circumstances, but all circumstances for me is probably similar for others too. Once you enter the Windows world, there are other constraints. You need an editor which is kind to carriage returns, and in my case is really unkind to tabs. This is in the former case not to screw up some poorly written tools everyone else is using, and the latter to conform to coding standards. vi/elvis/vim doesn't even pass, since it preserves tabs. I did have a version of sam which would remove crs on read, and replace on write, and could pretend tabs weren't 8 spaces on screen, and replace them with spaces on write, but I lost it. Actually, it may be on the disk of the Sparcalike in the attic but I don't have a monitor cable for it. Anyone know if I can get a cable to connect a monochrome sparc to modern colour monitor? OK that's enough drivel. That should, in modern parlance, 'promote discussion'. Where's Boyd?