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From: "Bakul Shah via 9fans" <9fans@9fans.net>
To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: mmaping on plan9? (was Re: [9fans] venti /plan9port mmapped
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2026 18:19:22 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E3E4A44C-A0D1-4AA5-BAC7-17CE71B0FC95@iitbombay.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17707184270.09b3.2952@composer.9fans.topicbox.com>

On Feb 10, 2026, at 2:13 AM, Alyssa M via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote:
> 
> On Monday, February 09, 2026, at 3:24 PM, ron minnich wrote:
>> as for mmap, there's already a defacto mmap happening for executables. They are not read into memory. In fact, the first instruction you run in a binary results in a page fault. 
> I thinking one could bring the same transparent/defacto memory mapping to read(2) and write(2), so the API need not change at all.

If you mean transparently mapping page aligned read/write, it can get messy. For reads you'd have to fix up page tables to fault on access for every page that is not yet read in. For writes you'd have to do copy-on-write in case the user tried to modify buffer passed to write(), until the old data is written out. This buys you reduced latency to first use at the expense of more kernel complexity.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-02-11  2:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-02 19:54 [9fans] venti /plan9port mmapped wb.kloke
2026-01-02 20:39 ` ori
2026-01-02 20:58   ` Bakul Shah via 9fans
2026-01-06 22:59     ` Ron Minnich
2026-01-07  4:27       ` Noam Preil
2026-01-07  6:15       ` Shawn Rutledge
2026-01-07 15:46         ` Persistent memory (was Re: [9fans] venti /plan9port mmapped) arnold
2026-01-07 16:11           ` Noam Preil
2026-01-07 17:26             ` Wes Kussmaul
2026-01-07  8:52       ` [9fans] venti /plan9port mmapped wb.kloke
2026-01-07 16:30         ` mmaping on plan9? (was " Bakul Shah via 9fans
2026-01-07 16:40           ` Noam Preil
2026-01-07 16:41           ` ori
2026-01-07 20:35             ` Bakul Shah via 9fans
2026-01-07 21:31               ` ron minnich
2026-01-08  7:56                 ` arnold
2026-01-08 10:31                 ` wb.kloke
2026-01-09  0:02                   ` ron minnich
2026-01-09  3:57                 ` Paul Lalonde
2026-01-09  5:10                   ` ron minnich
2026-01-09  5:18                     ` arnold
2026-01-09  6:06                       ` David Leimbach via 9fans
2026-01-09 17:13                         ` ron minnich
2026-01-09 17:39                         ` tlaronde
2026-01-09 19:48                           ` David Leimbach via 9fans
2026-02-05 21:30                             ` Alyssa M via 9fans
2026-02-08 14:18                               ` Ethan Azariah
2026-02-08 15:10                                 ` Alyssa M via 9fans
2026-02-08 20:43                                   ` Ethan Azariah
2026-02-09  1:35                                     ` ron minnich
2026-02-09 15:23                                       ` ron minnich
2026-02-09 17:13                                         ` Bakul Shah via 9fans
2026-02-09 21:38                                           ` ron minnich
2026-02-10 10:13                                         ` Alyssa M via 9fans
2026-02-11  1:43                                           ` Ron Minnich
2026-02-11  2:19                                           ` Bakul Shah via 9fans [this message]
2026-02-11  3:21                                           ` Ori Bernstein
2026-02-11 10:01                                             ` hiro
2026-02-12  1:36                                               ` Dan Cross
2026-02-12  5:39                                                 ` Alyssa M via 9fans
2026-02-12  9:08                                                   ` hiro via 9fans
2026-02-12 13:34                                                   ` Alyssa M via 9fans
2026-02-13 13:48                                                     ` hiro
2026-02-13 17:21                                                     ` ron minnich
2026-02-15 16:12                                                       ` Danny Wilkins via 9fans
2026-02-17  3:13                                                         ` Alyssa M via 9fans
2026-02-17 13:02                                                           ` Dan Cross
2026-02-17 16:00                                                             ` ron minnich
2026-02-17 16:39                                                               ` hiro
2026-02-17 16:56                                                             ` Bakul Shah via 9fans
2026-02-17 17:54                                                               ` hiro
2026-02-17 22:21                                                               ` Alyssa M via 9fans
2026-02-16  2:24                                                       ` Alyssa M via 9fans
2026-02-16  3:17                                                         ` Ori Bernstein
2026-02-16 10:55                                                           ` Frank D. Engel, Jr.
2026-02-16 13:49                                                             ` Ori Bernstein
2026-02-16 19:40                                                           ` Bakul Shah via 9fans
2026-02-16 19:43                                                             ` Bakul Shah via 9fans
2026-02-16  9:50                                                         ` tlaronde
2026-02-16 12:24                                                         ` hiro via 9fans
2026-02-16 12:33                                                         ` hiro via 9fans
2026-02-11 14:22                                             ` Dan Cross
2026-02-11 18:44                                               ` Ori Bernstein
2026-02-12  1:22                                                 ` Dan Cross
2026-02-12  4:26                                                   ` Ori Bernstein
2026-02-12  4:34                                                     ` Dan Cross
2026-02-12  3:12                                             ` Alyssa M via 9fans
2026-02-12  4:52                                               ` Dan Cross
2026-02-12  8:37                                                 ` Alyssa M via 9fans
2026-02-12 12:37                                                   ` hiro via 9fans
2026-02-13  1:36                                                   ` Dan Cross
2026-02-14  3:35                                                     ` Alyssa M via 9fans
2026-02-14 14:26                                                       ` Dan Cross
2026-02-15  4:34                                                   ` Bakul Shah via 9fans
2026-02-15 10:19                                                     ` hiro
2026-02-10 16:49                                         ` wb.kloke
2026-02-08 14:08                             ` Ethan Azariah
2026-01-07 21:40               ` ori
2026-01-07 16:52           ` ori
2026-01-07 17:37             ` wb.kloke
2026-01-07 17:46               ` Noam Preil
2026-01-07 17:56                 ` wb.kloke
2026-01-07 18:07                   ` Noam Preil
2026-01-07 18:58                     ` wb.kloke
2026-01-07 14:57       ` Thaddeus Woskowiak
2026-01-07 16:07         ` Wes Kussmaul
2026-01-07 16:22           ` Noam Preil
2026-01-07 17:31             ` Wes Kussmaul
2026-01-07 16:13         ` Noam Preil
2026-01-02 21:01   ` ori
2026-01-08 15:59     ` wb.kloke
2026-02-11 23:19       ` red

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