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From: Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 14:20:12 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E8FEC222-B313-11D7-8B4D-000393D34A62@orthanc.ab.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <007001c3471e$0ec21fe0$b9844051@insultant.net>


On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 02:01  PM, boyd, rounin wrote:

>>  From a practical standpoint, you don't need one.
>
> you do.  alice doesn't trust bob and bob doesn't trust alice.

You can put an SSL cert on the server if you really want to verify it's
who it claims to be. (Most people don't seem to care.) You don't need
one for the client, though, as you're verifying it via SASL. (And some
SASL mechanisms can also verify the server side while authenticating
the client, as well as performing encryption of the session. You pick
the one that matches your requirements.)

Again, I'm speaking from a *practical* standpoint, and addressing a
*very* narrow problem space. I, too, would like to see a global PKI
that actually works.

--lyndon



  reply	other threads:[~2003-07-10 20:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-07 12:05 [9fans] verifying CD vs. iso image pac
2003-07-07 13:39 ` [9fans] pop3 before smtp Kenji Arisawa
2003-07-09  0:49   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2003-07-09  1:16     ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-09  1:24       ` Dan Cross
2003-07-09  1:58         ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-09  1:36       ` Scott Schwartz
2003-07-09  1:54         ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-09  5:05           ` Kenji Arisawa
2003-07-09  7:21             ` Fco.J.Ballesteros, nemo
2003-07-09  7:39               ` Kenji Arisawa
2003-07-09  7:56                 ` Geoff Collyer
2003-07-09  8:29                   ` Kenji Arisawa
2003-07-09  9:07                     ` Kenji Arisawa
2003-07-10  4:02             ` Russ Cox
2003-07-10 19:18               ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2003-07-10 19:24                 ` David Presotto
2003-07-10 19:38                   ` David Presotto
2003-07-10 19:49                     ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-10 20:09                       ` William Ahern
2003-07-10 21:21                         ` Scott Schwartz
2003-07-10 21:50                           ` Dan Cross
2003-07-10 21:56                             ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-11  0:02                             ` David Presotto
2003-07-11  0:09                               ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-11  0:23                                 ` David Presotto
2003-07-11 15:03                                 ` William Ahern
2003-07-11 15:16                                   ` Martin Harriss
2003-07-11 15:59                                     ` William Ahern
2003-07-12  0:51                                     ` Bruce Ellis
2003-07-11 10:44                               ` matt
2003-07-11 14:46                             ` William Ahern
2003-07-12 23:58                               ` C H Forsyth
2003-07-11  8:52                           ` bs
2003-07-11  9:18                             ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-10 19:51                     ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2003-07-10 20:01                       ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-10 20:20                         ` Lyndon Nerenberg [this message]
2003-07-10 19:33                 ` George Michaelson
2003-07-10 19:44                   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2003-07-10 22:02                   ` Geoff Collyer
2003-07-10 22:14                     ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-10 23:11                       ` Geoff Collyer
2003-07-10 23:26                         ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-10 23:38                           ` Geoff Collyer
2003-07-10 23:48                             ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-10 23:56                               ` David Presotto
2003-07-11  0:03                                 ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-10 22:23                     ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2003-07-07 16:58 ` [9fans] verifying CD vs. iso image David Presotto
2003-07-07 20:46   ` boyd, rounin

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