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From: cinap_lenrek@felloff.net
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] PDP11 (Was: Re: what heavy negativity!)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 19:34:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <F022808EFD5F0B8A438B332081972DD2@felloff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1806122E-7160-403A-A2F0-027E5E77E31A@bitblocks.com

> But the reason I want this is to reduce latency to the first
> access, especially for very large files. With read() I have
> to wait until the read completes. With mmap() processing can
> start much earlier and can be interleaved with background
> data fetch or prefetch. With read() a lot more resources
> are tied down. If I need random access and don't need to
> read all of the data, the application has to do pread(),
> pwrite() a lot thus complicating it. With mmap() I can just
> map in the whole file and excess reading (beyond what the
> app needs) will not be a large fraction.

you think doing single 4K page sized reads in the pagefault
handler is better than doing precise >4K reads from your
application? possibly in a background thread so you can
overlap processing with data fetching?

the advantage of mmap is not prefetch. its about not to do
any I/O when data is already in the *SHARED* buffer cache!
which plan9 does not have (except the mntcache, but that is
optional and only works for the disk fileservers that maintain
ther file qid ver info consistently). its *IS* really a linux
thing where all block device i/o goes thru the buffer cache.

--
cinap



             reply	other threads:[~2018-10-10 17:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-10 17:34 cinap_lenrek [this message]
2018-10-10 21:54 ` Steven Stallion
2018-10-10 22:26   ` [9fans] zero copy & 9p (was " Bakul Shah
2018-10-10 22:52     ` Steven Stallion
2018-10-11 20:43     ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-11 22:28       ` hiro
2018-10-12  6:04       ` Ori Bernstein
2018-10-13 18:01         ` Charles Forsyth
2018-10-13 21:11           ` hiro
2018-10-14  5:25             ` FJ Ballesteros
2018-10-14  7:34               ` hiro
2018-10-14  7:38                 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2018-10-14  8:00                   ` hiro
2018-10-15 16:48                     ` Charles Forsyth
2018-10-15 17:01                       ` hiro
2018-10-15 17:29                       ` hiro
2018-10-15 23:06                         ` Charles Forsyth
2018-10-16  0:09                       ` erik quanstrom
2018-10-17 18:14                       ` Charles Forsyth
2018-10-10 22:29   ` [9fans] " Kurt H Maier
2018-10-10 22:55     ` Steven Stallion
2018-10-11 11:19       ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2018-10-11  0:26   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2018-10-11  1:03     ` Steven Stallion
2018-10-14  9:46   ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2018-10-14 10:37     ` hiro
2018-10-14 17:34       ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2018-10-14 19:17         ` hiro
2018-10-15  9:29         ` Giacomo Tesio
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-10-10 22:19 cinap_lenrek
2018-10-10 16:14 cinap_lenrek
2018-10-10  0:15 cinap_lenrek
2018-10-10  0:22 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-09 19:49 cinap_lenrek
2018-10-09 19:56 ` hiro
2018-10-09 19:47 cinap_lenrek
2018-10-09 22:01 ` erik quanstrom
2018-10-09 23:43 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-10  5:52   ` hiro
2018-10-10  8:13     ` Digby R.S. Tarvin
2018-10-10  9:14       ` hiro
2018-10-10 13:59         ` Steve Simon
2018-10-10 21:32         ` Digby R.S. Tarvin
2018-10-11 17:43     ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-11 19:11       ` hiro
2018-10-11 19:27         ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-11 19:56           ` hiro
2018-10-10  5:57   ` hiro
2018-10-08  3:38 Lucio De Re
2018-10-08  4:29 ` Digby R.S. Tarvin
2018-10-08  7:20   ` hiro
2018-10-08 12:03     ` Charles Forsyth
2018-10-08 17:20       ` hiro
2018-10-08 21:55         ` Digby R.S. Tarvin
2018-10-08 23:03           ` Dan Cross
2018-10-09  0:14             ` Bakul Shah
2018-10-09  1:34               ` Christopher Nielsen
2018-10-09  3:28               ` Lucio De Re
2018-10-09  8:23                 ` hiro
2018-10-09  9:45                 ` Ethan Gardener
2018-10-09 17:50                   ` Bakul Shah
2018-10-09 18:57                     ` Ori Bernstein
2018-10-10  7:32                 ` Giacomo Tesio
2018-10-09 17:45               ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-09 18:49                 ` hiro
2018-10-09 19:14                   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-09 22:05                     ` erik quanstrom
2018-10-11 17:54                       ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-11 18:04                         ` Kurt H Maier
2018-10-11 19:23                         ` hiro
2018-10-11 19:24                           ` hiro
2018-10-11 19:25                             ` hiro
2018-10-11 19:26                         ` Skip Tavakkolian
2018-10-11 19:39                           ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-11 19:44                             ` Skip Tavakkolian
2018-10-11 19:47                               ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-11 19:57                                 ` hiro
2018-10-11 20:23                                   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-10 10:42                     ` Ethan Gardener
2018-10-09 19:23                   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-09 19:34                     ` hiro
2018-10-09 19:36                       ` hiro
2018-10-09 19:40                       ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-10  0:18                       ` Dan Cross
2018-10-10  5:45                         ` hiro
2018-10-09 22:06                     ` erik quanstrom
2018-10-10  6:24                       ` Bakul Shah
2018-10-10 13:58                         ` erik quanstrom
2018-10-09 22:42                   ` Dan Cross
2018-10-09 19:09                 ` Bakul Shah
2018-10-09 19:30                   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-09  3:08             ` Digby R.S. Tarvin
2018-10-09 11:58               ` Ethan Gardener
2018-10-09 13:59                 ` erik quanstrom
2018-10-09 22:22                 ` Digby R.S. Tarvin
2018-10-10 10:38                   ` Ethan Gardener
2018-10-10 23:15                     ` Digby R.S. Tarvin
2018-10-11 18:10                       ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-11 20:55                         ` Digby R.S. Tarvin
2018-10-11 21:03                           ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-09 14:02               ` erik quanstrom
2018-10-08  8:12   ` Nils M Holm
2018-10-08  9:12     ` Digby R.S. Tarvin
2018-10-08  8:09 ` Nils M Holm

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