From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <864o5ogspr.fsf@cmarib.ramside> References: <864o5ogspr.fsf@cmarib.ramside> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ethan Grammatikidis Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 06:13:10 +0100 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] wiki... Topicbox-Message-UUID: d2db78c2-ead6-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On 24 Apr 2011, at 5:48 am, smiley@zenzebra.mv.com wrote: > Ethan Grammatikidis writes: > >> On 11 Apr 2011, at 2:51 pm, David Leimbach wrote: >> >>> I posted some on the wiki about how I got the guruplug working for >>> me... >> >> How do you find things on the wiki? I came across this today. My >> first >> thought was to look in the other_hardware page where I found mention >> of the Shevaplug and Guruplug but no links so I looked in the news >> page and only found a link to Nemo's home website... :) > > There's a wiki page index: > > http://www.plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/Wiki_index An index which is only linked from the front page.. well ok, it's a lot better than no index. > > You can also: > > 9fs wiki && cd /mnt/wiki > > The wiki pages should all be listed in that directory, with spaces in > their names converted to underscores. This is what I would have done if sources hadn't gone down. > >> Google simply can't find the word "guruplug" anywhere on >> www.plan9.bell-labs.com despite there being a clear link chain to a >> wiki page which has it, so that's no use. > > Google can't find much at all regarding Plan 9. (Well, not for any of > the searches I've done.) I don't think google has learned that we > exist > yet. ;) > >> up some obsolete info too. Do I need an account to edit the wiki? I > > Nope. Anyone with srv(4) can mount it. The standard way to edit > it is > via Acme. 'Local 9fs wiki' and then 'Wiki'. Good to know. > > In theory. :) Incidentally, 9front exists in part because plan 9 theory differs from practice too often. Unfortunately it's only a few weeks old and has a grand total of 6 wiki pages, some of which are jokes. > > When I try this, I am able to pull up the wiki pages. But I only have > about 60 seconds to get in, make my changes, and Put them. If I take > any longer than that, I get all sorts of "hangup" errors. I have to > close out the Wiki windows, 9fs and Wiki back in, and try again to > make > the changes faster. Guess the fids go stale or something. It'd be > nice > to know why the wiki drops out so quickly, though. If I only get 60 seconds I certainly will not be helping to fix up the wiki! > > I had sources go down in the middle of contrib/install'ing tex. Now > THAT was frustrating. contrib(1) doesn't handle partially installed > packages very well at all. Say, where is the canonical community bug > tracker for Plan 9, anyway? Contrib doesn't handle many unexpected things well, don't use it in 9vx if root is on the host filesystem. IIRC it's based on replica(1) which rather requires ideal circumstances for correct behaviour.