Re: [9fans] Plan9 - the next 20 years

[Francisco J Ballesteros <nemo@lsub.org>]

Well, in the octopus you have a fixed part, the pc, but all other  
machines come and go. The feeling is very much that your stuff is in  
the cloud.

I mean, not everything has to be dynamic.

El 17/04/2009, a las 22:17, ericvh@gmail.com escribió:

> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:43 PM, <tlaronde@polynum.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 08:16:40PM +0100, Steve Simon wrote:
>>> I cannot find the reference (sorry), but I read an interview with  
>>> Ken
>>> (Thompson) a while ago.
>>>
>>
>> My interpretation of cloud computing is precisely the split done by
>> plan9 with terminal/CPU/FileServer: a UI runing on a this Terminal,  
>> with
>> actual computing done somewhere about data stored somewhere.
>>
>
> That misses the dynamic nature which clouds could enable -- something
> we lack as well with our hardcoded /lib/ndb files -- there is no
> provisions for cluster resources coming and going (or failing) and no
> control facilities given for provisioning (or deprovisioning) those
> resources in a dynamic fashion. Lucho's kvmfs (and to a certain
> extent xcpu) seem like steps in the right direction -- but IMHO more
> fundamental changes need to occur in the way we think about things. I
> believe the file system interfaces While not focused on "cloud
> computing" in particular, the work we are doing under HARE aims to
> explore these directions further (both in the context of Plan
> 9/Inferno as well as broader themes involving other platforms).
>
> For hints/ideas/whatnot you can check the current pubs (more coming
> soon): http://www.research.ibm.com/hare
>
> -eric
>
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