From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 References: <867ebc36addb575545f253fda3ca2026@coraid.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8J2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8-948838360 Message-Id: From: David Leimbach Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 16:05:47 -0700 To: "rhoyerboat@gmail.com" , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Cc: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] crazy idea - drawterm in javascript? Topicbox-Message-UUID: e5401fcc-ead6-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --Apple-Mail-8-948838360 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 JavaScript is not java... =20 Sent from my iPhone On May 17, 2011, at 11:46 AM, a z wrote: > Ugh, I have to comment because to my noobness this sounds like an easy pr= oject, and an easy project to over-think. Teach a java app how to draw boxes= like rio, and plug it in. Right?=20 >=20 > I would love to use Rio on a touchscreen, unfortunately I need to eat. So i= f I get that eating thing figured out Ill download Android SDK and make it s= tart reading data from what rio listens to and attaching markup to it.=20 >=20 > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 12:18 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > > What the hell? They're not saying, "Screw running on hardware, let's > > just boot the whole system in Javascript under a browser", they want > > to let you connect to your Plan 9 system from a web browser, because > > you can find a Javascript-supporting web browser anywhere (except Plan > > 9) these days. > > > > As fgb would say, relax. No "Bell Labs people" have even commented on > > this thread, and if anybody wants to implement this, it's their own > > damn business. Writing a drawterm replacement in Javascript is not > > going to "downgrade" Plan 9. In fact, it would be rather useful--now > > when you're away from home, you can use somebody else's computer to > > connect to your CPU server and read your mail, for example. >=20 > relax, man. i understand peter's perspective. and i don't think > it's unreasonable. just think about how dbus has downgraded linux. >=20 > on the other hand, i think a js virtual machine (mips would be nicer > than x86) might be interesting. drawterm has always been a clever > hack. it would be nice to have emulated environment that's more > portable than 9vx and not tied to 32-bit x86. >=20 > one would then be able to write applications for non-plan 9 users > in plan 9. clearly they will have a browser. >=20 > not that i'm signing up or anything. :-) >=20 > - erik >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > =E2=8E=BC=E2=8E=BA=E2=8E=BA=E2=94=9C@=E2=94=BC=E2=90=8A=E2=94=9C=E2=94=9C=E2= =89=A4-=E2=90=8D=E2=8E=BC=E2=90=8A=E2=96=92=E2=90=8D:/=E2=90=A4=E2=8E=BA=E2=94= =94=E2=90=8A/=E2=8E=BC=E2=90=A4=E2=8E=BA# --Apple-Mail-8-948838360 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
JavaScript is not java...  
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On May 17, 2011, at 11:46 AM, a z <rhoyerboat@gmail.com> wrote:
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Ugh, I have to comment be= cause to my noobness this sounds like an easy=20 project, and an easy project to over-think. Teach a java app how to draw boxes like rio, and plug it in. Right?

I would love to use Rio on a touchscreen, unfortunately I need to eat.=20 So if I get that eating thing figured out Ill download Android SDK and=20 make it start reading data from what rio listens to and attaching markup to it.

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 12:18 PM,= erik quanstrom <quanstro@labs.coraid.com> wrote:
> What the hell? They're not saying, "Screw running on h= ardware, let's
> just boot the whole system in Javascript under a browser", they want > to let you connect to your Plan 9 system from a web browser, because > you can find a Javascript-supporting web browser anywhere (except Plan<= br> > 9) these days.
>
> As fgb would say, relax. No "Bell Labs people" have even commented on > this thread, and if anybody wants to implement this, it's their own
= > damn business. Writing a drawterm replacement in Javascript is not
> going to "downgrade" Plan 9. In fact, it would be rather useful--now > when you're away from home, you can use somebody else's computer to
= > connect to your CPU server and read your mail, for example.

relax, man.  i understand peter's perspective.  and i don't t= hink
it's unreasonable.  just think about how dbus has downgraded linux.
=
on the other hand, i think a js virtual machine (mips would be nicer
than x86) might be interesting.  drawterm has always been a clever
hack.  it would be nice to have emulated environment that's more
portable than 9vx and not tied to 32-bit x86.

one would then be able to write applications for non-plan 9 users
in plan 9.  clearly they will have a browser.

not that i'm signing up or anything.  :-)

- erik




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