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From: Paul Lalonde <plalonde@telus.net>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Good enough approximation for ape/pcc
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 07:42:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <F880F7E8-EDB8-4F93-9FBB-549677AF978B@telus.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <775b8d190604100137g2b2e02f2i8a2586b71b8a2164@mail.gmail.com>


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You should see the bare machine then... Sony's GCC is even more hooped.

And the PS3 version is no better, with huge dependence on "restrict"
for any sort of performance, especially on SPU.  And don't  It's made
me go back to coding assembly instead.  And its structure packing so
interferes with good data layout I want to cry.

(Shameless plug follows)

That said, Neoptica (www.neoptica.com - the startup I'm involved
(committed?) with) is looking for a world-class systems/compilers
person to join our team; we're working on novel approaches to exploit
multi-core architectures, GPUs, and fast bi-directional busses to
improve the visuals in next-games.  The systems job add isn't posted
yet, but should be soon - for the flavour through, think Brook
(http://graphics.stanford.edu/papers/brookgpu/brookgpu.pdf), Sequoia
(http://graphics.stanford.edu/~kayvonf/papers/sequoia_draft.pdf), and
EAGL (http://www.cs.brown.edu/~tor/sig2002/ea-shader.pdf)


Paul

On 10-Apr-06, at 1:37 AM, Bruce Ellis wrote:

> distrust anthing with more than one underscore.
>
> i've seen  ...
>
> #define iniline __inline__
>
> more than once, and don't care what it means.
> the ps2 linux port is crazy.  trying to align things.
>
> brucee
>
> On 4/10/06, lucio@proxima.alt.za <lucio@proxima.alt.za> wrote:
>>> Gcc does all these kinds of optimizations and more.  I can't imagine
>>> what they're optimizing for.
>>>
>>>     gcc-developer time?  many hours went into writing that code.
>>
>> On the contrary, they are protecting their "job" just like any other
>> employee, by making themselves indispensable.  I don't think it's
>> necessary or a conscious decision on their part, but it's that aspect
>> of human nature that eventually defeats any attempt at benevolent
>> social engineering.  Call it "the tragedy of the commons", if you
>> need
>> a label.
>>
>> ++L
>>
>>


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  reply	other threads:[~2006-04-10 14:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-07 18:13 Fernan Bolando
2006-04-07 19:43 ` Russ Cox
2006-04-07 19:01   ` Fernan Bolando
2006-04-07 19:17     ` uriel
2006-04-07 19:57       ` David Leimbach
2006-04-07 21:52         ` Russ Cox
2006-04-07 21:07           ` David Leimbach
2006-04-08 22:39           ` Lluís Batlle i Rossell
2006-04-08 23:50             ` quanstro
2006-04-09  0:05               ` Russ Cox
2006-04-09  5:55                 ` Scott Schwartz
2006-04-09 16:56                   ` Russ Cox
2006-04-09 21:57                     ` Scott Schwartz
2006-04-09 23:04                       ` Russ Cox
2006-04-10  2:49                         ` Scott Schwartz
2006-04-10  4:19                           ` Russ Cox
2006-04-10  4:03                             ` lucio
2006-04-10  8:37                               ` Bruce Ellis
2006-04-10 14:42                                 ` Paul Lalonde [this message]
2006-04-10 11:11                               ` quanstro
2006-04-10 11:34                                 ` Brantley Coile
2006-04-10 14:09                                   ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-04-10 14:49                                     ` Paul Lalonde
2006-04-10 15:26                                       ` andrey mirtchovski
2006-04-10 22:07                                   ` Andrew Simmons
2006-04-10 23:04                                     ` Andy Newman
2006-04-10 23:18                                       ` David Leimbach
2006-04-10 23:51                                         ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-04-11  0:07                                           ` David Leimbach
     [not found]                                             ` <3e1162e60604101707v6214a809h516a223bf5d14a06@mail.gmail.co m>
2006-04-11  1:26                                               ` Andrew Simmons
2006-04-11  2:37                                                 ` quanstro
2006-04-11  4:20                                                   ` Bruce Ellis
2006-04-11  5:40                                                     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-04-11  8:18                                                       ` Bruce Ellis
2006-04-11  8:56                                                         ` Charles Forsyth
2006-04-11  9:00                                                           ` Bruce Ellis
2006-04-11  8:17                                                 ` Lluís Batlle
2006-04-11 21:30                                                 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-04-11 22:37                                                   ` Russ Cox
2006-04-11 22:05                                                     ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-04-11 21:25                                             ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-04-10  9:57                             ` Charles Forsyth
2006-04-09 23:32                       ` geoff
2006-04-07 20:10     ` Russ Cox
     [not found]     ` <ba5b34e5051e1f0238a2df3f641d4598@cat-v.org>
2006-04-08  4:18       ` Fernan Bolando
2006-04-08  5:24         ` Russ Cox
2006-04-08  7:28           ` Bruce Ellis
2006-04-08 16:18             ` Rob Pike
2006-04-08 16:42               ` Bruce Ellis
2006-04-09 23:04 erik quanstrom
2006-04-10 23:51 erik quanstrom
2006-04-10 23:53 erik quanstrom
2006-04-11  0:37 erik quanstrom
2006-04-11  0:40 erik quanstrom
2006-04-11 10:18 Andrew Simmons
2006-04-11 10:55 ` Brantley Coile
2006-04-11 11:25 ` quanstro
2006-04-11 12:58 Russ Cox
2006-04-12  0:50 erik quanstrom
2006-04-12  1:09 ` Charles Forsyth
2006-04-12 11:18 ` Aharon Robbins
2006-04-12 11:31   ` R
2006-04-12 14:01   ` Russ Cox
2006-04-12 13:44     ` Charles Forsyth
2006-04-12 14:50       ` Brantley Coile
2006-04-12  1:15 erik quanstrom
2006-04-12  1:23 ` Charles Forsyth

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